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Idaholady 08-15-2020 11:52 AM

Problems with sewer pipes in TV
 
I am new to TV and have had a horrendous sewer problem in the home I recently purchased. The plastic (whatever happened to concrete?) pipes in the front yard were laid incorrectly 12 years ago so they have large cracks in two places with roots invading, etc. It is so bad I have had to move out temporarily. Has anyone else ever had this problem and how was it resolved?:ohdear:

retiredguy123 08-15-2020 12:30 PM

Did the roots cause the cracks in the pipe? The only way to resolve the problem is to dig up the pipes and replace them. Then, make sure any trees and roots that could damage the pipes are removed.

Nucky 08-15-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817934)
I am new to TV and have had a horrendous sewer problem in the home I recently purchased. The plastic (whatever happened to concrete?) pipes in the front yard were laid incorrectly 12 years ago so they have large cracks in two places with roots invading, etc. It is so bad I have had to move out temporarily. Has anyone else ever had this problem and how was it resolved?:ohdear:

I'm very extremely sorry for your troubles. Whoa! I've been through the same thing twice. The second time I was forced to hire an Officer for Traffic Control during the excavation and repair. $60 per hour for him to sit in his car and listen to motivational discs. It was Orangeburg Pipe which is known to deteriorate over time. What a mess it was.

I'm surprised that you have had this problem. Chances are that when they backfilled the area and that they applied to much pressure with the backhoe and whacked up the pipe. It should be no more than a two-day repair IMHO. I wish you luck and hope you can put this terrible event behind you. :pray:

Get an Inspector and a Permit if Necessary. You'll be glad you did.

I haven't heard or seen evidence of anyone else having this exact problem.

The two houses in Marion County which took years to straighten out had problems with underground drainage pipes. They blamed it on a Sinkhole. IMHO I don't think that assessment was correct. The Drainage pipe was damaged and it took years for the damage to show its face. Just like in your yard. Lawyer Up and see what a professional has to say about your case.

Idaholady 08-15-2020 01:26 PM

Yes, the pipes have been repaired and replaced. Now the hazmat team comes in.

John41 08-15-2020 01:27 PM

Our neighbor had this problem and the plumber had a snake with a camera to locate the problem.

Idaholady 08-15-2020 01:29 PM

Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

retiredguy123 08-15-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817984)
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

I don't think you can sue the home inspector because of the contract you signed for the inspection. Some home inspectors sell liability coverage for an extra fee, but, if you didn't buy the coverage, you would be out of luck. Also, the seller is protected unless you can prove they knew about the problem.

graciegirl 08-15-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817984)
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

Rest assured it is unusual. Your pipes met code when the house was built. Things do settle and this IS a sinkhole area but not quite as bad as near Tampa. Unused pipes laying dormant outside in the summer heat can build up a lot of sludge from tiny celled creatures growing in the dark. If you or anyone else is not a year rounder be ready to flush them out and my hubs uses drain cleaner every once in awhile.

Dgizzi 08-15-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817984)
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

It’s not “TV” any home anywhere can have this problem. Doubt you can lawyer up!

Lee Gilpin 08-16-2020 07:04 AM

Same problem in Liberty Park a few years ago. I experienced sheared off sewer pipe; it was repaired, and a few weeks later more fill dirt had to be added. This second work proved to me that excavations here are not sufficiently tamped. Settlement can shear off plastic pipes.
More on settlement: You will notice asphalt having been patched near many storm water drains along many of our roads. I believe that also due to insufficient tamping of the backfill around the initial construction.

Topspinmo 08-16-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Gilpin (Post 1818246)
Same problem in Liberty Park a few years ago. I experienced sheared off sewer pipe; it was repaired, and a few weeks later more fill dirt had to be added. This second work proved to me that excavations here are not sufficiently tamped. Settlement can shear off plastic pipes.
More on settlement: You will notice asphalt having been patched near many storm water drains along many of our roads. I believe that also due to insufficient tamping of the backfill around the initial construction.

IMO majority of sinkholes are under storm drains water mains, or transfer pipes. IMO The leak and saturation the ground down to cavity and collapse, IMO that man made collapse and NOT natural nature sinkhole as seen from google earth all Florida and most parts of country and world.

graciegirl 08-16-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Gilpin (Post 1818246)
Same problem in Liberty Park a few years ago. I experienced sheared off sewer pipe; it was repaired, and a few weeks later more fill dirt had to be added. This second work proved to me that excavations here are not sufficiently tamped. Settlement can shear off plastic pipes.
More on settlement: You will notice asphalt having been patched near many storm water drains along many of our roads. I believe that also due to insufficient tamping of the backfill around the initial construction.

Don't tampa the excavations Virginia. There is a possibility of stuff falling in here and all the way to Tampa. Type in these words;

Sinkhole Map of Florida.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-16-2020 09:41 AM

What do you mean by flush
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1817997)
Rest assured it is unusual. Your pipes met code when the house was built. Things do settle and this IS a sinkhole area but not quite as bad as near Tampa. Unused pipes laying dormant outside in the summer heat can build up a lot of sludge from tiny celled creatures growing in the dark. If you or anyone else is not a year rounder be ready to flush them out and my hubs uses drain cleaner every once in awhile.

them out and Is drain cleaner safe to use regular, lots of homes but no maintenance ability lol

KRM0614 08-16-2020 09:53 AM

We all have this problem villages should reimburse you. They did a lousy job and don’t even connect the pipes properly. I rented a house for 2 months waiting to close the pipes backed up 3 times flooded kitchen toilets showers then the crooks from villages rentals tried to charge ME $500- for calling 3 plumbers to fix it. Couldn’t shower for 4 days in June 2019

Nucky 08-16-2020 10:08 AM

I would use your newly hired inspector to watch the repair. But what's done is done.

Talking to a Lawyer lets you know if you have options that the TOTV'S amateur lawyers aren't aware of. You may have nothing but the proper Lawyer would know more than us. There are Lawyers who know what your rites are against your own insurance company.

In Jersey, one of our kids drove his bike into an expensive car. Couldn't have been a Yugo rite. I was beside myself cause the victim was coming at us for about $10 grand. I went to my own lawyer who put me onto one of these insurance lawyers and turns out our Homeowners took care of the bill. It cost me about $150 for the consultation.

I'm glad things worked out for you. Did you have a stump taken out by a grinder or did any neighbor who is next door have a service like that performed? The vibration could have also been what broke or fractured the pipe. Once the pipe is broken the roots will seek out the water leaking from it.

The rest of your Villages life hopefully will be uneventful. Only good events anyway.


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