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Henryk 09-02-2020 12:12 PM

Is it still good?
 
Hubby and I are having a ... uh, a discussion. He's cleaning out the refrig and wants to toss stuff with a past date. I say it isn't necessary for things like:

A-1 Sauce
Chicken soup base
Hot sauces
Ketchup

I say that even thought the label says "best by 2016" there are so many preservatives (read: salt) that they won't spoil. What do you think?

golfing eagles 09-02-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1827239)
Hubby and I are having a ... uh, a discussion. He's cleaning out the refrig and want to toss stuff with a past date. I say it isn't necessary for things like:

A-1 Sauce
Chicken soup base
Hot sauces
Ketchup

I say that even thought the label says "best by 2016" there are so many preservatives (read: salt) that they won't spoil. What do you think?

For the few dollars that these items cost to replace, is it worth the chance?

Villageswimmer 09-02-2020 12:42 PM

Yes. Ditch it!

Stu from NYC 09-02-2020 12:53 PM

Ketchup if it hasnt separated seems to last forever

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-02-2020 12:58 PM

If you haven't finished something that's been sitting in the fridge for over two years, then it's not likely you're using it enough to waste the space in the fridge on it. Just ditch it. For ketchup, just ask next time you go ANYWHERE that has take-out service (including the supermarket deli area) for a couple of packets of ketchup. Keep them in the cupboard and throw them away after 6 months if you don't use them by that point.

For chicken base, it should have a sell-by date, which is not the same thing as a use-by date. Once it's opened, you can keep it in the fridge probably for a couple of months. And then throw it away.

Boomer 09-02-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1827239)
Hubby and I are having a ... uh, a discussion. He's cleaning out the refrig and wants to toss stuff with a past date. I say it isn't necessary for things like:

A-1 Sauce
Chicken soup base
Hot sauces
Ketchup

I say that even thought the label says "best by 2016" there are so many preservatives (read: salt) that they won't spoil. What do you think?


Welcome to my parallel universe — Mr. Boomer and I have been having that same argument for decades.

He eats long-expired yogurt unless I intercept it. I have a nose like a hound dog so that makes me persnickety.

Now, for some marital advice: You said this is about the fridge. Do not even think about those cans in the pantry. :22yikes:

Boomer

Henryk 09-02-2020 01:45 PM

Well! Color me surprised. I've kept Thai fish sauce for ten years. I call it "aged." lol. It does tend to crystalize over the years.

Stu from NYC 09-02-2020 01:48 PM

We do tend to smell stuff to decide if ok.

Anything though dairy based would go pretty quick after expiry date

Bjeanj 09-02-2020 01:59 PM

I am as guilty as the next person about not checking expiration dates. After reading your question, I checked with my best friend, Google, and found this handy website:

StillTasty: Your Ultimate Shelf Life Guide - Save Money, Eat Better, Help The Environment

I think this will answer more questions than asked.

davem4616 09-02-2020 03:05 PM

some items like tubes of tomato paste last quite a long time in the fridge....pickles as well

I try to 'clean house' (and the shelves) every six months when I replace the box of Arm & Hammer...usually when we
change the clocks from/to daylight savings

The secret to a tasty meal is starting with good fresh ingredients....anything past it's prime is going to detract from the optimal
flavor of your efforts

now, left overs are another matter....if they haven't been frozen, 1 week in the frig and they're tossed

village dreamer 09-02-2020 05:13 PM

sure you can serve it to your husband , not like you would your dog.

retiredguy123 09-02-2020 05:43 PM

Not just things in the refrigerator, but I go through everything I own on a regular basis and throw out the things I am not using. I think it is the best way to stay organized and neat.

MandoMan 09-03-2020 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1827239)
Hubby and I are having a ... uh, a discussion. He's cleaning out the refrig and wants to toss stuff with a past date. I say it isn't necessary for things like:

A-1 Sauce
Chicken soup base
Hot sauces
Ketchup

I say that even thought the label says "best by 2016" there are so many preservatives (read: salt) that they won't spoil. What do you think?

That’s a good question. In my experience, many foods are good long after the arbitrary expiration date, especially condiments, but four years after? Maybe you don’t need it in your refrigerator. Why not toss it, safe or not? Make some room in there. Ground spices gradually lose their intensity of flavor. I’ve often used spices that are years old, but sometimes I have to use a lot more. Things like A-1, Hot Sauce, and Ketchup are often good several years after the expiration date. Smell them. However, ketchup (Catsup?) left on a shelf unopened, especially in light, may oxidize, turning a darker color. Sometimes that color is just on the surface, and a good shake hides it.

Canned goods are safe years after the expiration date, as long as the cans aren’t bulging, but the cells may eventually fall apart, so the texture becomes mushier. Mostly, expiration dates are more like “sell-by” dates—you don’t need to pay much attention to them. I buy a lot of food at what I call “bang and dent stores,” sometimes in dented cans, but usually simply with “sell-by” dates coming up soon or recently past. I may save 75%, and it tastes just fine. I buy pints of Ben and Jerry’s ice cream for a dollar!

Oil can definitely go rancid. A few weeks ago a friend made me chicken picatta using olive oil she had kept in a lovely decorative bottle for years. I could smell it from the living room, and the taste was, um, unforgettable. We ended up tossing it all. If you are about to use some oil you rarely use, smell it first. If it doesn’t smell sweet and delicious and delicate, toss it. Don’t buy more until you need it, and don’t buy a big bottle.

Things like breakfast cereals, crackers, cookies often get rancid. I’ve often opened something like that and found that it smelled off. This may be long after it’s expiration date, though. I’ve also found tiny spiders in flour I’ve had for several years in a sealed container.

Most drugs are good for at least 15 years after the expiration date.

Here’s an article on the topic from Wikipedia. The final paragraph deals with drugs.
Expiration date - Wikipedia

Here is what Consumer Reports says. Lots of good info here!
How to Extend Food Expiration Dates - Consumer Reports

Rwirish 09-03-2020 05:09 AM

This is finally an exciting topic, ditch them.

Girlcopper 09-03-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1827239)
Hubby and I are having a ... uh, a discussion. He's cleaning out the refrig and wants to toss stuff with a past date. I say it isn't necessary for things like:

A-1 Sauce
Chicken soup base
Hot sauces
Ketchup

I say that even thought the label says "best by 2016" there are so many preservatives (read: salt) that they won't spoil. What do you think?

I dump it. Expiration date is usually about a year later so if you still have alot left its obvious its rarely used. Dump it and dont rush replacing


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