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alwann 09-06-2020 09:49 AM

Labor Day displays
 
It's always nice to see flags and buntings on display. On this day, some do it and many don't. Do you consider Labor Day to be a patriotic holiday? I never did. It's a day off from work with big discounts at the stores, but I wonder whether people in general know the significance.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-06-2020 10:08 AM

My father was a union organizer in the 1930’S all over the USA, he fought pitched battles with company goons breaking up picket lines. Many of these organizers like many dad went on to fight in Spain against Franco and German troops, when war broke out my father didn’t even have to join but he did and fought with the 101ST Airborne and went he jumped on D Day he was older then commanding general . After the war he had a job with a national union , but during the McCarthy hearings he was branded a communist for his 1930’S union work and for fighting in Spain he was not. He was never bitter he still had his iron worker card , but angry at all the innocent people who lost there careers over these hearings. So in my family we take Labor Day seriously and freedom of speech no matter what the message is

alwann 09-06-2020 11:08 AM

Unions
 
My mom was a union official. I worked in management. As you might imagine, we had lively discussions, especially during strikes, when managers were assigned to do members' jobs. (And many had no clue how do do them.)

Madelaine Amee 09-06-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1829090)
It's always nice to see flags and buntings on display. On this day, some do it and many don't. Do you consider Labor Day to be a patriotic holiday? I never did. It's a day off from work with big discounts at the stores, but I wonder whether people in general know the significance.

I have to agree with you. Labor Day was the official last day of summer, family cook out times, if you lived up north you would start covering tender plants because you just knew a killing frost was round the corner. Unfortunately everything has become whether or not you are patriotic. Does flying a flag make you a patriot, not in my book, but it is your right to do so if you want to, but don't think I am less patriotic than you for not flying the stars and stripes. There is not a generation in my family that has not gone to war for their country, and that is true patriotism.

davem4616 09-06-2020 11:14 AM

For me Labor Day was always a nice long weekend to celebrate a season ending cookout with friends and family and accept that 'summer' was over...I never saw it as a patriotic holiday

We no longer have a flag pole, however we embraced the TV tradition and proudly display small flags along the front of our property line and hang a patriotic banner on Memorial Day, Flag Day, July 4th and Veteran's Day.

justjim 09-06-2020 11:25 AM

My father and grandfather were United Mine workers of America union men. I remember talking with “Pop” regarding the working conditions And wages in the coal mines prior to the UMWA and it’s leader John L. Lewis. The coal miners were hero’s in my opinion and essential to the war efforts during WW1 and WW2. I have been on “both sides” of the equation during my working years. I celebrate the men and women in the various labor unions on Labor Day as they attempt to bring home a fair wage for the working people of America today. This man perhaps said it best back in 1861. “Labor is prior to, and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor and could never have existed if labor not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.” Abraham Lincoln

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-06-2020 11:38 AM

Labor day is currently a sham. The whole point of it was to honor workers with a day off. So what do most retail businesses do? Do they close? No. They hold HUGE sales, which require their employees to come in on a day that's supposed to be honoring them, and make them work even harder than usual to accommodate the crowds coming in for those massive sales.

Just like Black Friday, I avoid shopping on these days, and I avoid working on these days. I don't get a paid day off, but screw it. I'm not going to work harder than usual on a day that's supposed to be honoring my work.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-06-2020 11:43 AM

It is Labor Day not patriots day , and the way people in villages throw the word around much of the time is unpatriotic, freedom for many villages seem to be only viewed through a small prism

Dana1963 09-06-2020 12:23 PM

Ask any Villager working Rec Centers or Community Watch it’s only a holiday in name. Organized Labor either gets a paid day off or Holiday Premium. But to our working Villagers it’s just another day!

Stu from NYC 09-06-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1829190)
Ask any Villager working Rec Centers or Community Watch it’s only a holiday in name. Organized Labor either gets a paid day off or Holiday Premium. But to our working Villagers it’s just another day!

Very true but when they take the job they know this and of course they are being paid so do not feel sorry for them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-06-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1829216)
Very true but when they take the job they know this and of course they are being paid so do not feel sorry for them.

That has nothing - absolutely nothing - to do with the topic. Did you even read the OP? They want to know if you consider Labor Day to be a patriotic day. They also commented that it's a day off from work. Which - in most cases, it isn't. Whether you feel sorry for them or not.

coffeebean 09-06-2020 05:59 PM

No to Labor Day being a patriotic day. I did not put out the little flags for Labor Day.

Stu from NYC 09-06-2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1829328)
That has nothing - absolutely nothing - to do with the topic. Did you even read the OP? They want to know if you consider Labor Day to be a patriotic day. They also commented that it's a day off from work. Which - in most cases, it isn't. Whether you feel sorry for them or not.

I commented on your comment and yes I did read the OP.

Chi-Town 09-06-2020 09:59 PM

From the Dept. of Labor:

Labor Day, the first Monday in September, is a creation of the labor movement and is dedicated to the social and economic achievements of American workers. It constitutes a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our country.

EdFNJ 09-06-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1829190)
Ask any Villager working Rec Centers or Community Watch it’s only a holiday in name. Organized Labor either gets a paid day off or Holiday Premium. But to our working Villagers it’s just another day!

It's just "another day" for 99% of the retail store employees (unionized or not) all over the country (whatever is left of them now due to the pandemic). In my 40+ years in retail I never had any holiday off (except for Christmas day). When I graduated kollidge I went to work for Gimbels in NYC as a buyer and I always thought Labor Day & Memorial Day were meant for mattress sales so, to keep it on topic, no, I never considered it a "patriotic day" just a big sale day.


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