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larbud 05-10-2021 10:24 AM

Vaccine
 
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that you need to be tested for in order to know whether you have it or not?
That is the most assinine thing I've ever heard.
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that we have a cure for?

GrumpyOldMan 05-10-2021 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by larbud (Post 1942272)
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that you need to be tested for in order to know whether you have it or not?
That is the most assine thing I've ever heard.
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that we have a cure for?

Are you just poking the lion or do you actually believe this?

Hmm, let's see polio, measles, chickenpox, and on and on. You get symptoms, you get tested you know you are screwed because you didn't get the vaccine.

Excuse me? What cure do we have? I am sure there are about 500,000 dead Americans that would be interested in that little tidbit.

graciegirl 05-10-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by larbud (Post 1942272)
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that you need to be tested for in order to know whether you have it or not?
That is the most assine thing I've ever heard.
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that we have a cure for?

We do not have a cure for Covid-19. We have a vaccination that allows our body to defend against it. Once someone is sick with Covid-19, the danger of death is greater with AGE.

The tests tell us whether the virus is in our body and not making US sick but could make someone else VERY sick. Thus a lot of twenty somethings that dearly love their grandparents are being vaccinated to protect them. Or to protect small children who have congenital heart defects. Or protect fifty somethings that have been taking chemo.

Tmarkwald 05-10-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1942282)
Hmm, let's see polio, measles, chickenpox, and on and on. You get symptoms, you get tested you know you are screwed because you didn't get the vaccine.

Yep, wish people would think about that more often!

Velvet 05-10-2021 10:44 AM

OP, it sounds like you are concerned about the Covid vaccine. Is it for yourself for a special reason or is it in general?

Dana1963 05-10-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by larbud (Post 1942272)
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that you need to be tested for in order to know whether you have it or not?
That is the most assine thing I've ever heard.
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that we have a cure for?

If you don’t want the vaccine then don’t take it.

Altavia 05-10-2021 11:41 AM

The main problem was overwhelming hospitals. Vaccine has done it's job reducing hospitalizations to a mostly manageable level.

The vaccinated have a COVID risk no more than the flu now.

I no longer worry about those who refuse, their body, their choice, their risk.

drducat 05-10-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by larbud (Post 1942272)
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that you need to be tested for in order to know whether you have it or not?
That is the most assine thing I've ever heard.
When have we ever needed a vaccine for a virus that we have a cure for?

You are correct in this..as of now Ivermectin has been peer reviewed as Prophylactics'.

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

https://osf.io/wx3zn/

GrumpyOldMan 05-10-2021 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1942336)
You are correct in this..as of now Ivermectin has been peer reviewed as Prophylactics'.

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

https://osf.io/wx3zn/

Not a good idea.

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA

Tmarkwald 05-10-2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1942330)
I no longer worry about those who refuse, their body, their choice, their risk.

yep, got it!

larbud 05-10-2021 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1942282)
Are you just poking the lion or do you actually believe this?

Hmm, let's see polio, measles, chickenpox, and on and on. You get symptoms, you get tested you know you are screwed because you didn't get the vaccine.

Excuse me? What cure do we have?”’” I am sure there are about 500,000 dead Americans that would be interested in that little tidbit”””.

If you’re implying dead people give a care I’d say you’re wrong,If you’re implying you were told the truth about this I’d say you’re wrong as well..

drducat 05-10-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1942347)

This has changed. The new research with peer review shows that soon FDA will change the stance on this, even though they originally disproved due to no money to be made. Ivermectin is cheap and safe.

mrf6969 05-10-2021 03:24 PM

I did not want the Covid Vaccine but travel trips are going to require it. Grrrrrrrrr

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-10-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mrf6969 (Post 1942433)
I did not want the Covid Vaccine but travel trips are going to require it. Grrrrrrrrr

So, just don't go anywhere. That is your right.

Malsua 05-10-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1942397)
This has changed. The new research with peer review shows that soon FDA will change the stance on this, even though they originally disproved due to no money to be made. Ivermectin is cheap and safe.

Even when the FDA wrote that statement, there was a mountain of evidence from blinded, peer revied studies showing efficacy of Ivermectin in prophylaxes an treatment of Covid-19 at all stages of the disease.

The FDA statement says "taking large doses can be bad".

No one I read ever mentioned talking large doses. The dose is .2mg/kg. Overdose does not begin until about 2mg/kg. I.e. roughly 10x suggested dosing. Ivermectin has an extremely wide safety profile as well where the therapeutic effect occurs all across the middle, no where near toxic dosing begins.

The FDA article also goes on to mention not using it off label. 20% of the drugs in this country are used off label.

I was taking Ivermectin since about late November until I got my Vaxx. Zero issues.
Wasn't cheap. 28 3mg pills were $107 and my dose is 7 every two weeks.

One state in India just announced they are recommending EVERYONE in their state begin a regime of it. Uttar Predash and a few others with low covid rates, have already been doing that. The proof is in the numbers. It works.


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