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lstevenson1470 08-19-2021 08:17 PM

Switch to propane gas from electric only?
 
I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

Koapaka 08-20-2021 02:43 AM

Just wondering, are you aware of induction cooking options and how much less expensive it would be than to do the gas conversion??? With a swap out like this, you would be getting the control you want on heat settings. A fraction of the cost for what you are wanting to achieve. https://www.homedepot.com/p/FRIGIDAI...ction-overview

TedfromGA 08-20-2021 06:47 AM

Propane gas for all electric homes
 
We had a 250 gallon propane tank buried in our yard to service a generator. We also had a line run to service a gas stove and an outside grill. All this required approval from ARC and cost around $13 grand for generator and installation. We use about 50 gallons of propane / year with the generator running for 10 minutes each week plus the gas stove and grill. If we loose power the generator will power the house for about 5 days.

If you just want a gas stove (and maybe an outlet for gas grill) you don't want a 250 gallon tank buried. An outside 50 gallon would be sufficient to cover your use for a year. The questions are: a) can you place such a tank above ground next to your house?; b) if not then can a 50 gallon tank be buried - check with the propane supplier?; c) in any case check with ARC to determine if approval is required. Cost for this type of solution should be well under $1 grand.

Dan9871 08-20-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 1991660)
Just wondering, are you aware of induction cooking

+1 on induction cooktop. Heating is quick, about the same as gas, very quick to heat up. Some have temp controlled burner too.

lstevenson1470 08-20-2021 08:35 AM

Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

DAVES 08-20-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lstevenson1470 (Post 1991636)
I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

Our previous home, not in Florida we had gas. I do not like electric stoves either. However unlike here we had a basement. The gas was in iron pipes, actually they are steel. I know several people have installed buried tanks. It looks kind of like a submarine. The line coming off that huge tank is PLASTIC. Distribution is in your attic-above your head called a manifold.

Electric stoves, there are many different types. The one we have, supplied by the builder
has continuously variable heat control. Not the old type that had or has click steps.
The way ours works it achieves the chosen temperature by being on FULL for various times. You need to LEARN how to let that horse know you are the boss. Top power is only good to boil water. If, you try to rush it, it will surely burn your food. I have a COPPER disc that I use under pots as needed. We have quality stainless steel pots with either THICK aluminum or copper bottoms.

bandsdavis 08-20-2021 08:50 AM

Yes we did exactly this a number of years ago in the Village of St. Charles. Total installation cost, including the permit, was under $1300. Suburban Propane out of Wildwood did the entire job for us and did a great job. You do have to get approval but they helped with that as well. I highly recommend it. Had an ocassion recently to cook on an electric stove again while travelling and it reminded me why I made the switch. As you mentioned in a later post, the problem is getting the setting correct when going down in temp, like for simmering.

DAVES 08-20-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lstevenson1470 (Post 1991844)
Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

As said in my previous post, you need to teach that horse who is the boss. Unlike gas, the temperature does not change as fast particularly when you turn down the heat. I regularly make quantities of stuff like lentil soup, pea soup etc in large old pressure cookers.
I've even mastered that without burning. That was tough. Three or four gallons of burnt tasting soup is truly a disaster.

bluedivergirl 08-20-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lstevenson1470 (Post 1991844)
Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

They do. I've had a Samsung Induction for about 3+ years. I can have a teapot on full rolling boil, screaming like mad, turn the heat off and it stops whistling immediately.

You have to have magnetic pans. I chose All-Clad, and filled in with odds and ends from TJMaxx.

You will pay more for induction, but you just plug the range in, slide into place and you're done. No digging in the back yard.

I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Dan9871 08-20-2021 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lstevenson1470 (Post 1991844)
Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

Yes, they reduce as quickly as they heat up.

Papa_lecki 08-20-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TedfromGA (Post 1991734)
If you just want a gas stove (and maybe an outlet for gas grill) you don't want a 250 gallon tank buried. An outside 50 gallon would be sufficient to cover your use for a year. The questions are: a) can you place such a tank above ground next to your house?; b) if not then can a 50 gallon tank be buried - check with the propane supplier?; c) in any case check with ARC to determine if approval is required. Cost for this type of solution should be well under $1 grand.

I looked into it, you can not have an above ground propane tank - must be buried.

DAVES 08-20-2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1991914)
I looked into it, you can not have an above ground propane tank - must be buried.

Not at all surprised, Not at all a common event but a propane tank is a bomb. Picture a home on fire. Heat plus flammable gas under pressure. A buried tank has no choice but to blow upwards not out.

The person driving the delivery truck, gets extra pay for hazardous cargo. We do not get paid when we drive on the same road.

jdulej 08-20-2021 02:34 PM

We were going to convert from electric to gas about two years ago. We already have a 90 gal propane tank for our spa and the spa heater sits right outside the kitchen, so the conversion would be easy.
Unfortunately, the Whirlpool Gold cook top the house came with had a cutout hole in the counter top one inch longer than every gas cook top sold in the USA. I could not believe it!
As luck would have it, Bosch induction cook tops require a cutout that matches the Whirlpool, so we went that route and have been very happy with it.

Bottom line - don't assume things will fit. Measure (twice!).

Gntlewind 08-21-2021 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lstevenson1470 (Post 1991636)
I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

We have switched the propane at both of the houses that we owned in the villages. It’s really easy to do and just as safe as having electricity in your house. My wife only wants to cook on gas for the same reasons that you quote it. Suburban Propane will do it for you and make it easy. If the gas pipes are run in the attic, they are just as safe as your electric lines.

Rwirish 08-21-2021 05:30 AM

Nope, no one has ever done this.


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