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The Gazette 08-22-2021 09:10 PM

COVID-19?s Rise Causes Changes in Places of Worship
 
As a result of the recent increase in COVID-19 cases caused by the delta variant, some local churches are requesting that attendees once again wear face masks as a precaution. Church members at the United Church of Christ at The Villages are being ordered to wear masks inside the church, referencing the US Centers for

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tsmall22204 08-23-2021 04:46 AM

Seem correct, you are there for the word of God not to get infected.

banjobob 08-23-2021 04:52 AM

Beautiful picture of St. Timothy Catholic Church.

nativetex 08-23-2021 06:26 AM

Is there some sort of place where I can find locations of Church of Christ? I am moving to the Village of Fenney on September 1 (moving from the country of Panama, originally from Texas).

Byte1 08-23-2021 10:19 AM

And here we go again. I bet they really beef up the scare next year. Wonder why? Hmmm.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-23-2021 10:48 AM

Interesting spin. The headline is that the rise *causes* changes.

It doesn't. There's nothing in the virus that is causing a church's officials to make any changes. The changes are not caused by the virus. Viruses just don't have that much power. The church officials are making the changes because they have agreed that it's the most appropriate and efficient way to get their worshippers in for services with the lowest risk given the circumstances.

That's not a virus causing changes. It's the human caution regarding a virus causing the changes.

A less "spun" headline might have been:

Places of Worship Enact Safety Changes Amidst COVID-19 Case Rise.

Nordhagen 08-23-2021 11:00 AM

Masks don’t work🙄

Byte1 08-23-2021 11:03 AM

The power of prayer is more effective than most of these paper/cloth masks.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-23-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1993243)
The power of prayer is more effective than most of these paper/cloth masks.

I guess you've never heard the expression:

"Trust in the Lord, but tie up your camel."

It applies here too. Do you lock your doors at night? Do you lock your car when you park in an unfamiliar parking lot? Do you brush your teeth? Do you shower? Do you wipe your butt after taking a crap?

Or

Do you trust that god will keep your house safe? Trust that god will keep your car safe? Trust that god will protect your teeth? Trust that if God thinks you're dirty, the Almighty will make it rain in your bedroom? Trust that if God wants you to not have massive festering wounds, He will make your crap pristine and perfect?

Do you take precautions against sickness? Do you take supplements? Do you eat food to prevent from starving? Do you hydrate to keep yourself from being dehydrated? Do you look both ways before crossing the street?

Why is wearing a mask during an epidemic so different?

Malsua 08-23-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1993247)

Why is wearing a mask during an epidemic so different?

Because they are not mandating N95 masks.

Stop conflating the two.

Paper and cloth masks are as effective at stopping covid infection as they are at stopping you from smelling flatus ejected by a rotund diner at the Golden Correl.

I would be supportive of masking if they were requiring proper N95 or better respirators, well fitted. They are not, they are requiring a magic talisman that has no effect on the prevention of covid transmission.

jimjamuser 08-23-2021 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordhagen (Post 1993239)
Masks don’t work🙄

That may be short and sweet, but I disagree with the content.

jimjamuser 08-23-2021 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1993250)
Because they are not mandating N95 masks.

Stop conflating the two.

Paper and cloth masks are as effective at stopping covid infection as they are at stopping you from smelling flatus ejected by a rotund diner at the Golden Correl.

I would be supportive of masking if they were requiring proper N95 or better respirators, well fitted. They are not, they are requiring a magic talisman that has no effect on the prevention of covid transmission.

There are degrees of mask effectiveness according to the medical and Scientific community. There is an expression that MAY apply here - "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good".

Malsua 08-23-2021 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1993282)
There are degrees of mask effectiveness according to the medical and Scientific community. There is an expression that MAY apply here - "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good".

Sure there are. The degree of effectiveness of a blue paper mask, loosely worn, often with nose out, is so close to zero effectiveness as to not matter.

MIT came out with a study in the spring that said that even with N95, exhaust gases tended to go up and fall across rooms, and in fact, probably make it a bit worse rather than just coming out and dropping down in front of the infected person.

If you want to do something, how about an open window, door and venting mandate? How about schools hold class outside as possible? Turn off ACs and open every window and door possible(safety in mind of course).

It's all about diluting stagnant air full of virons because little paper masks on the faces of children isn't accomplishing anything and may in fact be harming them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-23-2021 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1993335)
Sure there are. The degree of effectiveness of a blue paper mask, loosely worn, often with nose out, is so close to zero effectiveness as to not matter.

MIT came out with a study in the spring that said that even with N95, exhaust gases tended to go up and fall across rooms, and in fact, probably make it a bit worse rather than just coming out and dropping down in front of the infected person.

If you want to do something, how about an open window, door and venting mandate? How about schools hold class outside as possible? Turn off ACs and open every window and door possible(safety in mind of course).

It's all about diluting stagnant air full of virons because little paper masks on the faces of children isn't accomplishing anything and may in fact be harming them.

The virus is transmitted via moisture droplets. Moisture droplets that manage to escape through those masks, don't travel as far as moisture droplets that are expelled with no mask at all.

If you want, you can experiment. Have someone fully infected with strep throat, sick as a dog, full of phlegm and puss, sneeze on you first without a mask.

After you recover from your own case of strep, have someone else with the same severity of strep throat sneeze on you but this time, while wearing a 3-ply paper mask.

You will probably be just fine.

Oh also that top blue layer isn't just paper. It's a fluid-resistant layer. Not fully waterproof, but moisture resistant. Breath can pass through it. Sneeze-snot cannot.

HORNET 08-23-2021 06:59 PM

What’s your point?


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