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Gigi3000 08-26-2021 12:31 PM

Annunities
 
I keep running into road blocks with getting annunity information directly from the insurance company. They keep referring me to an agent but I all ready have a CFP. I'm checking into a Single Premium Immediate Annunity and a MYGA. Has anyone found an insurance company you can buy these from directly?

dewilson58 08-26-2021 12:40 PM

barf

retiredguy123 08-26-2021 12:45 PM

I don't think you will be able to buy an annuity directly from an insurance company. I hate annuities and would never buy one. But, if I had to buy an annuity, I would buy it from Vanguard Investments. A second choice would be Fidelity Investments. I think both companies sell annuities. Good luck.

NeilV1 08-26-2021 12:49 PM

Annuities Through Fidelity | Compare Available Products | Fidelity

Babubhat 08-26-2021 03:07 PM

Vanguard or Fidelity. Keep costs low

Eg_cruz 08-26-2021 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gigi3000 (Post 1994735)
I keep running into road blocks with getting annunity information directly from the insurance company. They keep referring me to an agent but I all ready have a CFP. I'm checking into a Single Premium Immediate Annunity and a MYGA. Has anyone found an insurance company you can buy these from directly?

Not sure I would get a immediate annuity…….they just don’t pay. You can not pay an annuity without an agent.

Stu from NYC 08-26-2021 05:42 PM

And typically the salesman gets a rather sizable commission.

Blueblaze 08-26-2021 07:35 PM

The first problem with annuities is that you have to buy them from a salesman.

The worst problem with annuities is that when you do the math, you realize you're tying up your money for 10 years to get the same return you could get from a 3-year federally-insured CD. Don't be fooled by the fake "equivalent return" numbers they quote. The number to look at is the internal rate of return. It never even matches the inflation rate.

It's always been a mystery to me that no 100-year-old insurance company has the confidence in their investment team to write a contract that simply guarantees a reasonable fraction of historic stock market returns. They would clean up on the spread, and put the stock brokers out of business! Think of it -- they have the longevity to survive dips in the market (unlike us mere humans), they have the knowledge and experience to successfully play the market -- and they even get to keep what's left in your "account" when you die! So why aren't they willing to write a non-crooked contract that does something beyond just dribbling your own money back to you until you kick the bucket?

I guess the answer is they don't have to. There is an endless supply of marks who won't or can't do the math.

I would LOVE to buy an annuity and quit worrying about how to invest my money. So far, I've never found one that wasn't a scam.

Carla B 08-26-2021 08:35 PM

Thank You, Blueblaze, I think you uncovered the secret behind annuities.

Stu from NYC 08-26-2021 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1994908)
Thank You, Blueblaze, I think you uncovered the secret behind annuities.

As the old saying goes, Annuities are never purchased they are sold.

Gigi3000 08-26-2021 08:57 PM

Yeah, I just came back to say that I don't see the benefit either, unless maybe if I live to 100. If I buy a $100000 immediate annunity, I'd get around $450 a month and if it pays me for 18 years, I'd just break even..sounds ludacris and I would prolly kick off in 3 years, my luck. Then I'd be reeeeaaaallly upset!!!! :)

kkingston57 08-26-2021 09:04 PM

Have annuities(variable) and get 5% guaranteed and rarely get more than 5%(last year was a good exception) Can not get this rate now. Watch out for the costs. They are more than most of the costs on mutual funds. Costly but safe investment.

Do not know they can be bought direct.

richrjones 08-27-2021 04:48 AM

annuities
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigi3000 (Post 1994735)
I keep running into road blocks with getting annunity information directly from the insurance company. They keep referring me to an agent but I all ready have a CFP. I'm checking into a Single Premium Immediate Annunity and a MYGA. Has anyone found an insurance company you can buy these from directly?

Call a local agent for State Farm. They can help you.

joeharing 08-27-2021 05:30 AM

Buy stock in Dominion or Duke Energy and be done with all the hassles. Your heirs will thank you.

rlcooper70 08-27-2021 05:33 AM

Huge commissions with fixed annuity. If you want to use the variable annuity as a means to invest in mutual funds, call Fidelity they will lead you through the way to purchase.


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