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Tom Hannon 10-04-2010 10:10 AM

Ceilings
 
What exactly are-
1) Hand Trowelled Ceilings,
2) Tray/Coggered Ceilings,
3) Vol/Vaulted Ceilings.

mulligan 10-04-2010 10:24 AM

1-sometimes called skip-troweled, it is a coarse texture similar to the stucco finish.
2-a sprayed texture that is slightly flattened-finer than hand troweled
3-pitched upward in the same direction as the roof (sometimes called cathedral)

DebiR 08-08-2012 07:21 AM

Pros and Cons ...Vaulted, versus Flat Ceilings
 
Anyone have opinions for or against a type of ceiling? We are moving to TV soon! Thanks!

jmvalcq 08-08-2012 08:30 AM

we chose the flat ceiling because its less space to heat or cool.

John_W 08-08-2012 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Hannon (Post 296835)
What exactly are-
1) Hand Trowelled Ceilings,
2) Tray/Coggered Ceilings,
3) Vol/Vaulted Ceilings.

#2 Tray Ceiling is a ceiling that along the edge where it meets the wall is standard height but is raised in the center but levels out again to a flat ceiling area. The raised edge is usually faced with trim to enhance the vaulted look. Just imagine the center of the ceiling as a tray.

Last year the masonry CYV's name changed from Savannah Series to Bungalow series. The main difference is the bedrooms had volume (vaulted) in the Savannah series but in the Bungalows they've changed the bedrooms to a tray ceilings. See photo

http://mitrecontracting.typepad.com/...38bc28a4-500wi

#2 Coggered Ceiling, I think you meant coffered ceiling. Which is an elaborate trim job, beams running across the ceiling crossing each other. A fancy way to dress up the ceiling, usually seen in a study, family room or dining room. See photo

http://www.interiorgigs.com/wp-conte...ed-ceiling.jpg

zcaveman 08-08-2012 11:33 AM

Do they still do the popcorn ceiling? If so, stay away from it.

I would love to have had the troweled ceiling.

John_W 08-08-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 536288)
Do they still do the popcorn ceiling? If so, stay away from it.

I would love to have had the troweled ceiling.

Every new model and finished home I've been in at TV has the hand troweled ceilings. Popcorn pretty much went out in the 80's.

They still offer the regular ceiling in the patio villas and a volume ceiling is about $2,000 more. I've never seen a designer without a volume ceiling and CYV's only have volume ceiling and tray in the bedrooms. If you're thinking of resale, I would only get a volume ceiling.

We bought a CYV and wouldn't look at anything older than 2005 because most of them had a flat 8' ceilling, the rooms seem so much smaller and closed in. Heating and cooling these homes in TV's is not that expensive. We ended up purchasing a new 2011 CYV and our average electric bill has been about $100 a month. The homes are very well built with the latest A/C systems.

zcaveman 08-08-2012 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 536544)
Every new model and finished home I've been in at TV has the hand troweled ceilings. Popcorn pretty much went out in the 80's.

Popcorn ceilings were very common in TV in 2001. I asked for a flat ceiling and was told I could not get one. One day I was visiting afriend down the street and he had a flat ceiling. One of a very few.

jimbo2012 08-08-2012 08:17 PM

Popcorn ceilings were used to cover a 1 or 2 coat poor spackle job.

sunglow 08-08-2012 08:27 PM

We hate our popcorn ceiling. Does anyone know how much it would cost to have it removed? Or is there an easy way to cover over it ourselves???

jimbo2012 08-08-2012 09:48 PM

Two ways, new sheet rock.

Scrape the popcorn off sand touch up spackle paint.

Cost no idea, but it will take a fair amount of labor.

John_W 08-09-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 536640)
Popcorn ceilings were very common in TV in 2001...

When I wrote they went out of style in the 80's, I should of included in many areas of the country. In 1992 I bought a new home in the Baltimore area after touring dozens of new home subdivisions in Maryland and we never once saw a popcorn ceiling.

In 1998 I sold that home and then spent a week in Myrtle Beach visiting all the new home subdivisions including Pawley's Island. Also we toured new home subdivisions in Brooksville and Spring Hill, Florida in Hernando County and ended buying another new home in Maryland after seeing almost every new home subdivision surround Baltimore. After all that research I never once saw a popcorn ceiling, I'm surprised TV's was still using that in 2001. One thing it does do, it will help cover imperfections in the ceiling. That's why you almost never see a ceiling without some sort of finish applied.

rubicon 08-09-2012 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 536544)
Every new model and finished home I've been in at TV has the hand troweled ceilings. Popcorn pretty much went out in the 80's.

They still offer the regular ceiling in the patio villas and a volume ceiling is about $2,000 more. I've never seen a designer without a volume ceiling and CYV's only have volume ceiling and tray in the bedrooms. If you're thinking of resale, I would only get a volume ceiling.

We bought a CYV and wouldn't look at anything older than 2005 because most of them had a flat 8' ceilling, the rooms seem so much smaller and closed in. Heating and cooling these homes in TV's is not that expensive. We ended up purchasing a new 2011 CYV and our average electric bill has been about $100 a month. The homes are very well built with the latest A/C systems.

John: The Developers contractors were doing popcorn ceiling well into 2006 and I believe beyond. I had not seen a popcorn ceiling from 1980 until I moved here. I hired a guy to scrap off the popcorn and replace it with knock down which in DesMoines was referred to as executive ceiling. Executive ceiling is what i had in my home in Wes DesMoine including a completley
finished garage. When i discovered the popcorn ceiling upon completion of my TV home I tried to get the contracor to change it. he wanted to charge me $5000. i had it done a year later for 1,500

cmfjr 08-09-2012 09:30 AM

We purchased a stucco CYV in 2010 because it had catherdal ceilings in EVERY room. Makes the home feel much bibber than the 1580 sq. feet. Also helps with air circulation!

Quixote 08-15-2012 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmfjr (Post 536916)
We purchased a stucco CYV in 2010 because it had catherdal ceilings in EVERY room. Makes the home feel much bibber than the 1580 sq. feet. Also helps with air circulation!

We “downgraded” from a Designer to a Courtyard Villa (vinyl) and ended up with a significantly larger home with cathedral ceilings in every room but the guest room, with the spacious and open feeling they give, as opposed to flat ceilings throughout the Designer other than in the combined kitchen/living room/dining room. (Unrelated to ceilings, we now have a corner lot where every bit of it is usable outdoor space.)

Both homes have popcorn ceilings that don’t bother us at all. We spend very little time looking at our ceilings, and the same is true, I believe, for our guests…. Even when we wake up in the morning, we’re out of bed before we put our glasses on!


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