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SkBlogW 09-11-2021 08:12 AM

About that drone strike
 
After the drone strike, the headlines announced:

U.S. drone strike kills ‘multiple suicide bombers’ in Afghanistan, officials say

General Miley deemed it a "righteous strike"

But they never actually named the supposed Isis K "planners" killed in the strike.

The New York Times investigated and tell a different story. They killed a US Aid worker and 9 other innocent people including 3 children.

The New York Times and Washington Post say the strike the US said targeted an Islamic State operative actually killed an aid worker on daily duties in Kabul.

Afghanistan: US media cast doubt on Kabul drone strike

Examining a "righteous strike" WAPO

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...ike-questions/

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person? - The New York Times

Times Investigation: In U.S. Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb

In US Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb - The New York Times

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul - The New York Times

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person?

US Kabul drone strike appears to have killed an Afghan who worked for a US aid group: report

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/las...-the-wrong-guy

So much for "over the horizon anti terrorist capabilities. Sounds more like a "wag the dog strike" than a "righteous strike.

Aces4 09-11-2021 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkBlogW (Post 2001935)
After the drone strike, the headlines announced:

U.S. drone strike kills ‘multiple suicide bombers’ in Afghanistan, officials say

General Miley deemed it a "righteous strike"

But they never actually named the supposed Isis K "planners" killed in the strike.

The New York Times investigated and tell a different story. They killed a US Aid worker and 9 other innocent people including 3 children.

The New York Times and Washington Post say the strike the US said targeted an Islamic State operative actually killed an aid worker on daily duties in Kabul.

Afghanistan: US media cast doubt on Kabul drone strike

Examining a "righteous strike" WAPO

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...ike-questions/

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person? - The New York Times

Times Investigation: In U.S. Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb

In US Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb - The New York Times

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul - The New York Times

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person?

US Kabul drone strike appears to have killed an Afghan who worked for a US aid group: report

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/las...-the-wrong-guy

So much for "over the horizon anti terrorist capabilities. Sounds more like a "wag the dog strike" than a "righteous strike.




Everyone is too busy sweeping it under the rug to explain and it doesn’t interest most of the news media.

Taltarzac725 09-11-2021 08:36 AM

Kabul attack: Ten family members, including children, dead after US strike - CNN

More Googling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkBlogW (Post 2001935)
After the drone strike, the headlines announced:

U.S. drone strike kills ‘multiple suicide bombers’ in Afghanistan, officials say

General Miley deemed it a "righteous strike"

But they never actually named the supposed Isis K "planners" killed in the strike.

The New York Times investigated and tell a different story. They killed a US Aid worker and 9 other innocent people including 3 children.

The New York Times and Washington Post say the strike the US said targeted an Islamic State operative actually killed an aid worker on daily duties in Kabul.

Afghanistan: US media cast doubt on Kabul drone strike

Examining a "righteous strike" WAPO

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...ike-questions/

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person? - The New York Times

Times Investigation: In U.S. Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb

In US Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb - The New York Times

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul - The New York Times

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person?

US Kabul drone strike appears to have killed an Afghan who worked for a US aid group: report

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/las...-the-wrong-guy

So much for "over the horizon anti terrorist capabilities. Sounds more like a "wag the dog strike" than a "righteous strike.


Taltarzac725 09-11-2021 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2001968)
Everyone is too busy sweeping it under the rug to explain and it doesn’t interest most of the news media.

Kabul attack: Ten family members, including children, dead after US strike - CNN

It is not being swept under the rug.

PugMom 09-11-2021 08:42 AM

i saw that in the UKDailyMail. i don't know what to think or believe anymore. what 1 person says another will deny. such an awful mess

jdulej 09-11-2021 09:42 AM

Could be just another batch of lies from the same generals who have been lying about our great progress in Afghanistan for the past 20 years. Anybody really surprised?

holger danske 09-11-2021 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2002043)
They gave authority to use the drone strikes to "lower Level" commanders who were probably anxious to avenge the killing of Marines at the airport entrance. The fog of war may not apply in this case.

Appears this went all the way up the CENTCOM chain of command. Not the fault of the grunt who pushed the button. Generals need to be held accountable.

MrFlorida 09-11-2021 10:03 AM

I don't watch the news anymore, or believe anything the government says, it's all propaganda .

SkBlogW 09-11-2021 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2002043)
They gave authority to use the drone strikes to "lower Level" commanders who were probably anxious to avenge the killing of Marines at the airport entrance. The fog of war may not apply in this case.

Nonsense. Overseas drone strikes require approval of "the big guy"

Correction to OP. It was 9 members of the aid worker's family killed in the strike, including his 7 children,

Imagine if your average american ran over and killed a family of ten in a crosswalk. Then tells the judge and jury that they were terrorists, and their suicide vests all detonated.

The needle or life behind bars at least.

Topspinmo 09-11-2021 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2002049)
Could be just another batch of lies from the same generals who have been lying about our great progress in Afghanistan for the past 20 years. Anybody really surprised?


Funny how military works when reporting to career politicians, no career politicians want to here bad news. So what happens in the trenches at lowest level incidence hardly even gets reported correctly to high levels. It goes through several layers of supervision and management all putting there twist on it so they look good for promotions.

Topspinmo 09-11-2021 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holger danske (Post 2002054)
Appears this went all the way up the CENTCOM chain of command. Not the fault of the grunt who pushed the button. Generals need to be held accountable.


See my post, not going to happen.

Two Bills 09-11-2021 02:33 PM

I had a company commander who had a sign on his wall saying, 'The Buck stops at the man below me!'

John41 09-11-2021 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2002252)
I had a company commander who had a sign on his wall saying, 'The Buck stops at the man below me!'

The Peter Principle explains how Milley and Austin got to their positions.
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The Peter Principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their "maximum level of incompetence":

Topspinmo 09-11-2021 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2002252)
I had a company commander who had a sign on his wall saying, 'The Buck stops at the man below me!'


Should of read 5 men below me.:shocked:

kendi 09-12-2021 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkBlogW (Post 2001935)
After the drone strike, the headlines announced:

U.S. drone strike kills ‘multiple suicide bombers’ in Afghanistan, officials say

General Miley deemed it a "righteous strike"

But they never actually named the supposed Isis K "planners" killed in the strike.

The New York Times investigated and tell a different story. They killed a US Aid worker and 9 other innocent people including 3 children.

The New York Times and Washington Post say the strike the US said targeted an Islamic State operative actually killed an aid worker on daily duties in Kabul.

Afghanistan: US media cast doubt on Kabul drone strike

Examining a "righteous strike" WAPO

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...ike-questions/

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person? - The New York Times

Times Investigation: In U.S. Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb

In US Drone Strike, Evidence Suggests No ISIS Bomb - The New York Times

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul

Military Analysis Raises Questions About Deadly Drone Strike in Kabul - The New York Times

‘Imminent Threat’ or Aid Worker: Did a U.S. Drone Strike in Afghanistan Kill the Wrong Person?

US Kabul drone strike appears to have killed an Afghan who worked for a US aid group: report

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/las...-the-wrong-guy

So much for "over the horizon anti terrorist capabilities. Sounds more like a "wag the dog strike" than a "righteous strike.

I take any of these reports with a grain of salt. Bottom line is we really don’t know who was killed and likely never will. Sad that honesty is not the best policy in reporting


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