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Taj44 10-08-2010 05:37 AM

Golf Course Conditions - Overseeding
 
Quote: As was already mentioned the issue is with watering restrictions due to low pond water levels. Therefore only greens and tee boxes will be overseeded and watered. Fairways will not be overseeded which could mean less grass on the fairways during the winter.

This may not be much of an issue on executive courses but I think this could be a problem on the championship courses if we continue to have a dry weather. End of Quote
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I think it was 2 or 3 years ago that they overseeded Cane Garden in the winter, as is the usual case, but there was a heavy rainstorm and the grass seed washed away, so the course was essentially not overseeded. It was just awful - like playing off of brown concrete. With our cool weather conditions in Central Florida the grass goes dormant (brown) and doesn't grow as fast. If it is true that they are not going to overseed the fairways, the golf course conditions will be crap, unless they have some other measure to try like extra fertilizing and/or watering.

I normally play 3-4 times/week in the winter, at a cost of $125 a week or so. If the courses are in poor condition, I won't spend my money here, I'll go outside The Villages. Oftentimes you can get decent rates at nearby courses and the conditions are much better. Spruce Creek is just down the road, and they tend to be in pretty good shape. I thnk last year they ran a special for around $35 that included golf and cart.

ajbrown 10-08-2010 06:13 AM

I will hope...
 
The news disappointing. I will hope conditions are playable. Does not sound like a cost issue, but rather a decision based on natural resources, so hard to be upset with golf course management. Hopefully as TV continues to grow this is not the norm.

The way I play the game, I am never in the fairway, so I should be OK.

Think positive, anyone who drives the ball 170 yards will be in Bubba Watson territory (300 yards) by February!

Taj44 10-08-2010 08:06 AM

I think its all up to the individual as to whether the conditions are playable. Some people (like myself) tend to be more demanding of good conditions than others. For me, if its a question of paying $34 to play a course in poor condition, or drive 10 minutes from The Villages and pay $35 to play a course in really nice condition, there is no question about what I will do.

I also wonder about the decision to overseed the tee boxes. I mean, you're hitting off a tee, so what difference does it make if there is green grass or not? I wish they had used that money, seed, and water to overseed a landing area midway between the tees and greens. At least you'd have something decent to hit off of.

It will be fun to be in Bubba's shoes though!

l2ridehd 10-08-2010 09:00 AM

I was about to send my check for priority membership. Guess I will wait for a while and see the conditions. I also have no issue driving 30 minutes for better conditions even if the cost is slightly more. Wonder how many others will do the same.

spk7951 10-08-2010 09:31 AM

On the positive side I do commend the golf course management for coming out now and explaining this issue. To the negative this just made me think about Lopez last winter and how horrible some of the fairways and greens were at one point. I do play the championship courses twice a week in the winter and I am willing to be a little flexible in accepting issues with their condition but if it does get bad then I certainly will be heading outside of TV to play.

SALYBOW 10-08-2010 09:50 AM

I am confused
 
Quote: As was already mentioned the issue is with watering restrictions due to low pond water levels. Therefore only greens and tee boxes will be overseeded and watered. Fairways will not be overseeded which could mean less grass on the fairways during the winter.

I am new to TV (July 2010) but since I have been here it has done nothing but rain daily; well until the last few weeks anyway. Everyone is saying this is the rainiest summer ever. :shrug: Yesterday I played Redfish Run and the pond was so high it was hard to get around. (Harder that usual.:cry:)
I am having trouble conceiving of why they would have water restrictions. When I first came the ponds were low, but IMHO not anymore. Yesterday there was also a lot of green residue particularly around the greens and sand traps. I wondered what that was. We also noticed that many of the fringes around the greens were very rough. I had just played there Tuesday and it seemed worse yesterday. :grumpy:
All that being said, I had a wonderful time both in the beautiful weather and with very nice partners. Lunch was good also. :BigApplause: I guess I wait and see.

spk7951 10-08-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 297740)
Quote: As was already mentioned the issue is with watering restrictions due to low pond water levels. Therefore only greens and tee boxes will be overseeded and watered. Fairways will not be overseeded which could mean less grass on the fairways during the winter.

I am new to TV (July 2010) but since I have been here it has done nothing but rain daily; well until the last few weeks anyway. Everyone is saying this is the rainiest summer ever. :shrug: Yesterday I played Redfish Run and the pond was so high it was hard to get around. (Harder that usual.:cry:)
I am having trouble conceiving of why they would have water restrictions. When I first came the ponds were low, but IMHO not anymore. Yesterday there was also a lot of green residue particularly around the greens and sand traps. I wondered what that was. We also noticed that many of the fringes around the greens were very rough. I had just played there Tuesday and it seemed worse yesterday. :grumpy:
All that being said, I had a wonderful time both in the beautiful weather and with very nice partners. Lunch was good also. :BigApplause: I guess I wait and see.

I believe the green residue that you are speaking of is weed killer that they spray on select areas that need attention. Not all ponds are used for course watering. If you notice the levels on some of the championship courses they are coming down a bit and will continue to drop without added water.

Taj44 10-08-2010 10:40 AM

We were gone for part of the summer, so I can't speak to the rain amount. I thought it rained pretty good while we were here though, so was suprised they said there wasn't enough water. I just checked the monthly totals for Leesburg online, and they showed us about the same amount of precipitation as last year for July, August and September, so I'm confused.

Bogie Shooter 10-08-2010 11:20 AM

OMG now there is a water conspiracy.

mowdie 10-08-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 297732)
On the positive side I do commend the golf course management for coming out now and explaining this issue. To the negative this just made me think about Lopez last winter and how horrible some of the fairways and greens were at one point. I do play the championship courses twice a week in the winter and I am willing to be a little flexible in accepting issues with their condition but if it does get bad then I certainly will be heading outside of TV to play.

And saving $600 on priority membership too if they are bad again

Taj44 10-09-2010 06:45 PM

I was riding by Palmer today and noticed they are watering the fairways...they overseeded the last couple of days. Must be there is no water shortage there.

gary42651 10-10-2010 04:48 PM

Not sure why they want to spend so much time and money on the fairways....the way I hit the ball I`m never in them...time to work on that rough

schotzyb 10-11-2010 03:08 PM

I recently asked the question on Golf the Villages website about the rumor that only the greens and T boxes would be overseeded this year due to low water levels. I just received a phone call from Tom Basso, Director of Golf Operations and he stated that the only course that the fairways will not be overseeded is Hacienda Hills and there is the possibility that it could be if we get some good heavy rains soon.

ajbrown 10-11-2010 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schotzyb (Post 298503)
I recently asked the question on Golf the Villages website about the rumor that only the greens and T boxes would be overseeded this year due to low water levels. I just received a phone call from Tom Basso, Director of Golf Operations and he stated that the only course that the fairways will not be overseeded is Hacienda Hills and there is the possibility that it could be if we get some good heavy rains soon.


Thanks for the info! I enjoy Hacienda and hope they get it worked out.

jebartle 10-18-2010 08:25 AM

Hacienda
 
Why not overseed Hacienda?....Why does rain requirement for that course differ from any of the other championship courses that will be overseeded....Hacienda seems to retain water, ex. Palms and Oaks have flooded but I would think, there I go again, thinking, that "that" would give them reason to overseed now....Go figure!


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