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mtdjed 10-02-2021 10:30 PM

COVID Confusion
 
My eyes were opened today as I picked up my son at Orlando's MCO airport. We entered the airport unaware that masks are required. We were among the few that were unmasked. No one challenged us but we honestly did not know. Last time we were there in April that requirement did not exist.

We then went to Mallory country club for dinner and no one was wearing a mask.

Today I read that the Phizor Covid vaccination are quickly losing their effectiveness after 6 months Wasn't the delay in getting approval due to FDA requirements to insure that longer range effectiveness was achieved? Is this the same as Moderna and J & J?

Is the Booster shot approved by FDA? How long is it effective.

Is actual occurrence of COVID 19 providing better protection than the inoculations? If so , why does that not allow for continuance of work rather than firing for not getting inoculation?

Not a lot of clear informed instruction and communication.

Dana1963 10-03-2021 05:00 AM

Well you came to the right site for information/misinformation.

Bay Kid 10-03-2021 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2012146)
Well you came to the right site for information/misinformation.

Ha ha ha. Does anyone really know? Maybe the lab where it was created can give us a legitimate answer???

Papa_lecki 10-03-2021 06:36 AM

Oh good, another covid thread.

Dana1963 10-03-2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2012186)
Ha ha ha. Does anyone really know? Maybe the lab where it was created can give us a legitimate answer???

All what we think and know is an illusion. Nothing exists. Everything is an opinion.

Love2Swim 10-03-2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2012146)
Well you came to the right site for information/misinformation.

for misinformation, yes.

Two Bills 10-03-2021 06:53 AM

I blame the Snowbirds!:icon_wink:

Love2Swim 10-03-2021 07:03 AM

Not another post on herd immunity I hope. I read that immunity for viruses only lasts 3-9months, that's why they are considered seasonal viruses and require an annual vaccination or booster. Essentially for the "herd" to achieve immunity, 70% of the population would have to be infected every 9 months, making it impossible to achieve immunity through widespread transmission. Also, as we all should know, this particular virus is changing constantly, a lot is not known, and the scientists are learning as time goes on. As new information is gleaned, so do the recommended health practices change and adapt. At this point in time, we do know the vaccinations and masking are the only way we control the pandemic and minimize deaths. Those who think they can do their own thing and continue to be unvaccinated and expose others to the potentially deadly disease are going to to have to learn to adapt. They either follow the health rules set by their community and do what is best for society or face the consequences. They have a choice.

JMintzer 10-03-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2012198)
I blame the Snowbirds!:icon_wink:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P6AA1sBL7N8/sddefault.jpg

JMintzer 10-03-2021 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2012204)
Not another post on herd immunity I hope. I read that immunity for viruses only lasts 3-9months, that's why they are considered seasonal viruses and require an annual vaccination or booster. Essentially for the "herd" to achieve immunity, 70% of the population would have to be infected every 9 months, making it impossible to achieve immunity through widespread transmission. Also, as we all should know, this particular virus is changing constantly, a lot is not known, and the scientists are learning as time goes on. As new information is gleaned, so do the recommended health practices change and adapt. At this point in time, we do know the vaccinations and masking are the only way we control the pandemic and minimize deaths. Those who think they can do their own thing and continue to be unvaccinated and expose others to the potentially deadly disease are going to to have to learn to adapt. They either follow the health rules set by their community and do what is best for society or face the consequences. They have a choice.

No one (except you) has mentioned "herd immunity"...

And what you read is wrong...

sshepard03 10-03-2021 07:38 AM

Covid Confusion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2012204)
Not another post on herd immunity I hope. I read that immunity for viruses only lasts 3-9months, that's why they are considered seasonal viruses and require an annual vaccination or booster. Essentially for the "herd" to achieve immunity, 70% of the population would have to be infected every 9 months, making it impossible to achieve immunity through widespread transmission. Also, as we all should know, this particular virus is changing constantly, a lot is not known, and the scientists are learning as time goes on. As new information is gleaned, so do the recommended health practices change and adapt. At this point in time, we do know the vaccinations and masking are the only way we control the pandemic and minimize deaths. Those who think they can do their own thing and continue to be unvaccinated and expose others to the potentially deadly disease are going to to have to learn to adapt. They either follow the health rules set by their community and do what is best for society or face the consequences. They have a choice.

It is my understanding, from the CDC (albeit quietly published) that fully vaccinated people can get Covid and transmit Covid. This is contrary to what our Administration stated 2 months ago. If ANYONE says they 'know about Covid,' that is a lie. No one knows. Some say it's safe. They 'think' it's safe but they don't know it's safe. I want to see the 20 year study on > 1 million people to determine, i.e. long-term effects.
No one knows - we are all in the dark.

Mortal1 10-03-2021 08:40 AM

strangely enough no one mentions asking your doctor. they know your personal health issues and would likely know what course of action that is right for you.

"do the recommended health practices change and adapt. At this point in time, we do know the vaccinations and masking are the only way we control the pandemic and minimize deaths(this statement is not true! those with an immune system that prevents them from getting the virus are just fine). Those who think they can do their own thing and continue to be unvaccinated and expose others to the potentially deadly disease are going to to have to learn to adapt(again not true.if you have had the vaccine you need not worry-as per the people you quote for most of your misinformation) They either follow the health rules set by their community and do what is best for society or face the consequences(how very socialist of you). They have a choice(the only part of your post that is true, but you suggest that they do not and must bear the burden of those that get infected....BOLLOCKS!). I have not received the vaccine and since none of the people have no idea as to my particular health situation in regards to that they should mind your own business until you can get the facts which at this present time mostly do not exist).so how can some folks be so judgmental when all the facts aren't out there? or do some people just like telling people what to do? If people are so afraid they should invest in a real filtered mask, order out for everything and wipe every single thing they come in contact with(wear rubber gloves as well). Since we all that now even those vaccinated can carry and transmit the virus to others already vaccinated.

Michael G. 10-03-2021 09:51 AM

There was just a segment on Sunday Morning on television this morning on how Facebook is spreading misinformation
about everything, especially the virus and how people believe Facebook is the bible for all information.

Love2Swim 10-03-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2012213)
No one (except you) has mentioned "herd immunity"...

And what you read is wrong...

The original poster appeared to refer to herd immunity when they questioned whether the actual occurrence of Covid was better than getting vaccinated. My information was from a government website. Where is yours from?

drducat 10-03-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2012346)
The original poster appeared to refer to herd immunity when they questioned whether the actual occurrence of Covid was better than getting vaccinated. My information was from a government website. Where is yours from?

EU finds J&J COVID shot possibly linked to another rare clotting condition | Reuters


Herd Immunity===Death by 1000 shots :spoken:


Still want to hear more about the long term issues coming.....will know if it is safe in 5 years or more.


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