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macgolfnut 10-12-2010 11:43 AM

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Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I live in Hadley and today I was pulled over 3 blocks from my house for going 25 in a 15 mph zone. Are you kidding me? 15 mph? That seems ridiculous! I think my car idles at that speed. The officer was very nice and respectful and just gave me a warning. I wanted to question the speed limit but I didn't want to get him mad enough to change his mind and give me a ticket, so I kept silent. I agree that we don't want people speeding around there in a residential area, but 25mph would be a much more reasonable limit. 15mph is usually reserved for business driveways and parking lots. Does anyone agree with me and if so, do you know who I could contact to voice my concern? Thanks. Mac

BogeyBoy 10-12-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by macgolfnut (Post 298758)
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I live in Hadley and today I was pulled over 3 blocks from my house for going 25 in a 15 mph zone. Are you kidding me? 15 mph? That seems ridiculous! I think my car idles at that speed. The officer was very nice and respectful and just gave me a warning. I wanted to question the speed limit but I didn't want to get him mad enough to change his mind and give me a ticket, so I kept silent. I agree that we don't want people speeding around there in a residential area, but 25mph would be a much more reasonable limit. 15mph is usually reserved for business driveways and parking lots. Does anyone agree with me and if so, do you know who I could contact to voice my concern? Thanks. Mac

I don't agree.

There are a lot of residents that walk in the street (no sidewalks), slow moving carts with no separate cart lane, bike riders, people walking dogs, and some residents in motorized wheel chairs.

I've seen the sheriff on a corner near when I live and they pull you over for either speeding or not making a complete stop.

As mentioned in other threads, the patrols have recently increased, carts and cars are getting pulled over.

Halle 10-12-2010 01:03 PM

I don't agree either.

I'm one of those residents, that walks,jogs,bikes, and walks my dogs in my neighborhood in TV while sharing the road with cars and golfcarts. I had posted just the other day that the posted speed limit in most neighborhoods south of 466 was 15mph. I believe 15mph is a reasonable speed on a road that is shared by so many. I would also like to see a posted speed limit on the multi-modal trails since they are also shared by users participating in various activities.

downeaster 10-12-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by macgolfnut (Post 298758)
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I live in Hadley and today I was pulled over 3 blocks from my house for going 25 in a 15 mph zone. Are you kidding me? 15 mph? That seems ridiculous! I think my car idles at that speed. The officer was very nice and respectful and just gave me a warning. I wanted to question the speed limit but I didn't want to get him mad enough to change his mind and give me a ticket, so I kept silent. I agree that we don't want people speeding around there in a residential area, but 25mph would be a much more reasonable limit. 15mph is usually reserved for business driveways and parking lots. Does anyone agree with me and if so, do you know who I could contact to voice my concern? Thanks. Mac

I am not familiar with your neighborhood but if I were to drive through it and saw the speed limit was 15 I would drive 15, not 25.
You can contact the county commissioners to voice your concern but I wouldn't recommend it. There is a reason the speed limit is 15 MPH so I would suggest living with it.

iandwk 10-12-2010 02:22 PM

I must agree. I was just out in my golf cart on Madero, driving around 15-18 (not flat out), and I was passed by a Toyota Siena on a curve. He was easily doubling my speed. There were people working near the curb and barely on the road and they had to move out of his way. I am sure he would have been real apologetic if he had hit one of them. These roads are full of contractor's trucks parked on the curb, along golf carts and bikes a good part of the day, making them really unsafe to negotiate at more than the speed limit.

Where are you going that the few seconds you save by speeding can be that precious to you?

paulandjean 10-12-2010 03:35 PM

macgolgnut
 
I agree with you. 15 a little to slow. bicycle are going faster then that.25 seems like a nice safe speed. In The Villages they say driving golf carts to fast, and playing golf to slow.

l2ridehd 10-12-2010 03:53 PM

I for one did not know the speed limit on the side streets was 15mph. Somewhere there is a disconnect between 15mph and golf carts that go 19.8mph. I never check the speed of the cart, but almost always drive it full speed except on curves and tunnels. So I agree with those that say 25 is to fast, but would suspect a reasonable speed limit for everyone might be better at 20mph. Seems if it is set at 15mph then golf carts should require speedometers. Which would require inspections to verify everyone had one. Which then require some sticker as proof it was done, which would require a registration to stop you from driving if it wasn't. And NONE of us want to go down that road. So set the speed limit to 20 mph. Then most carts can't speed. And those that do are breaking another law already in place anyway so they can be ticketed.

Barefoot 10-12-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Halle (Post 298772)
I don't agree either.

I'm one of those residents, that walks,jogs,bikes, and walks my dogs in my neighborhood in TV while sharing the road with cars and golfcarts. I had posted just the other day that the posted speed limit in most neighborhoods south of 466 was 15mph. I believe 15mph is a reasonable speed on a road that is shared by so many. I would also like to see a posted speed limit on the multi-modal trails since they are also shared by users participating in various activities.

Halle, good post. I agree that 15 MPH is a reasonable speed on a shared road. There are many people who are physically challenged in our retirement community. Let's keep the pace of life slow and easy.

pooh 10-12-2010 04:18 PM

What seems to be forgotten here is that a car or truck is much larger than either a bicycle or golf cart and weighs a heck of a lot more. Hitting someone with a car at even 10mph can cause severe injury or even the loss of a life.

The speed limit of 15 does seem slow if you've just had to slow down from driving at a faster speed on a road with higher limits, but there are no sidewalks, people have to walk in the streets, around service vehicles and might not see someone coming at them in a motor vehicle.

redwitch 10-12-2010 05:00 PM

I know that the speed limit for patio villas and CYVs is 10 mph, at least those off of El Camino -- that speed is for ANY vehicle driving on those streets (includes, cars, golf carts and bikes). I assume if the posted speed limit is 15 mph, it applies to me whether I'm in a car or a cart or on the scooter. Like a car, just because your cart can go 19.8 mph, it doesn't mean that's the legal speed for you at all times.

I also agree with the majority -- 15 mph (and even 10 in some areas) is a reasonable speed given who all is on those streets. I'd feel heartsick if I ran over someone's pet (wouldn't feel quite as bad if it was a person, but I would feel some remorse). On the main streets (Havana, Rhapsody, Dunkirk in Hadley), I can see where someone would think 25 mph is reasonable even though I do try to take even those streets slower -- have to stop too often to pet a critter.

pooh 10-12-2010 05:07 PM

Thanks for the reminder, Redwitch, that the speed limit applies to bikes and carts, also.

Reezie 10-12-2010 05:10 PM

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As I was sitting here reading the post on the speed limit in the Villages I looked out my den window and saw my neighbor's mother, who is in her 90's walking on the street with her walker. Tell me, do you really think it's safe to come down my street doing 25 miles an hour when the speed limit is 15 and this lady happens to be walking more in the middle of the street because there is a truck parked in her way. How would you feel if you hit her as she does not have the ability or agility to get out of your way. The original poster should feel very lucky to not have gotten a ticket. If I was that officer, I wouldn't have been so nice.
I wonder why everyone is in such a hurry. I think 15 miles an hour speed limit is very appropriate for a place that has people anywhere from 50 years old and up walking on streets without sidewalks.

Macgolfnut was doing approx. 66% over the speed limit. If he was just going 5 miles more an hour putting it at 30, it would be the same as on rt.75 where the speed limit is 70, he would have been doing 140 miles an hour. He was almost doubling the speed limit on a side street in Hadley..

Tom Hannon 10-12-2010 06:08 PM

Don't want to hijack the thread but Triggerfish Run backs up to my house in Buttonwood. I assume that street is @30 MPH? I have no idea and having only spent one week in TV I am not familiar with the speed zones and what is normal.

Russ_Boston 10-12-2010 06:17 PM

Thanks for the warning - I didn't know it was 15mph.

I can only assume a resonable study was done to determine a safe speed. I agree with L2, I never limit my cart when in the neighborhood so I'm probably going closer to 20mph in the cart.

Mudder 10-13-2010 10:31 AM

Also way to many people are walking on the wrong side of the roads around here, it drives me crazy. You must walk facing traffic. The other day I saw a woman walking in one of the rotaries going the same way as the traffic, that's an accident waiting to happen. 15 MPH seems to be a good speed for the neighborhood streets.


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