Originally Posted by ricthemic (Post 302075)

Today I forgot my wife's and my IDs. My fault and I know we have to show our IDs.
I asked for consideration, NO. All I had was my name on first class mail, a cart that had both our first names on it. He said no, I then offered him both our cell phones to hold until I came back after golf with the IDs. Still NO.

Do the starters have any wiggle room to allow a golfer to tee off with a promise to come right back with the proper ID? Have any of you ever been allowed to tee off on a free golf course with the trail fees paid (they know this from the sign in sheet) when you forgot your ID?
I have been playing both champion and exec courses here for over a year and I must state that prior to today every single starter, ambassador and pro shop personnel have all been great, helpful and CONSIDERATE.

For sure I will never forget our IDs again

Originally Posted by ricthemic (Post 302075)

Today I forgot my wife's and my IDs. My fault and I know we have to show our IDs.
I asked for consideration, NO. All I had was my name on first class mail, a cart that had both our first names on it. He said no, I then offered him both our cell phones to hold until I came back after golf with the IDs. Still NO.

Do the starters have any wiggle room to allow a golfer to tee off with a promise to come right back with the proper ID? Have any of you ever been allowed to tee off on a free golf course with the trail fees paid (they know this from the sign in sheet) when you forgot your ID?
I have been playing both champion and exec courses here for over a year and I must state that prior to today every single starter, ambassador and pro shop personnel have all been great, helpful and CONSIDERATE.

For sure I will never forget our IDs again

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 302079)

And none of them broke the rules.

Originally Posted by ricthemic (Post 302075)

Originally Posted by clekr (Post 302122)

If you had followed TOTV and the Sun three or four years ago you would have seen the reason for this position by the starters. There was a problem with "ghost golfers". These were people who played two or three times a day. They signed up once with their own ID and then for additional times using neighbor's IDs who did not play golf.

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 302205)

And that's the point. It happened to me once too; and I won't forget again (I hope).

One problem is, if they were lenient about it, IDs would be forgotten way more often, making accurate judgment calls way more difficult, making turning away the questionably IDless way more difficult and confrontational, making gaming the system-- if not non-Villagers access to free golf-- way easier!

For example...



Sometimes it is frustrating when we know we are honest, we feel like we have good proof and we are inconvenienced when we believe "common sense" should have prevail. However, taking a longer term view and considering the longer-term potential pitfalls, maybe common sense did prevail. It looks something like this:

We Goofed leads to Consequence leads to Lesson Learned leads to More careful next time, resulting in better and more consistent enforcement and fairness for all. Not bad. Sometimes I wish real common sense would prevail more often.

Originally Posted by dinch (Post 308463)

Is there such a thing as a fee for guests on the Executive Courses, or are these courses for resident ID's only?

My wife and I will be arriving next week and will have resident ID cards while we are in TV, and have two guests coming down to visit. Will they be able to play for a fee?