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Taltarzac725 03-12-2022 09:52 PM

Stalin is probably rolling in his grave about Putin's mess.
 
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The old saying those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it fits here.

I would bet Stalin and his various generals are livid while watching from wherever what Vladimir Putin is doing.

Taltarzac725 03-12-2022 11:45 PM

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Putin should throw in the towel. There is no way he can win this. His attack on the sovereign nation of Ukraine is a massive blunder.

Bay Kid 03-13-2022 07:45 AM

Evidently you must be screwed up to run a country.

Caymus 03-13-2022 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2071731)

Putin should throw in the towel. There is no way he can win this.

It depends on his definition of "win"

Stu from NYC 03-13-2022 08:14 AM

It is amazing how generals do not learn lessons from the past in how to fight a war.

MrFlorida 03-13-2022 08:31 AM

Urban warfare is the most difficult , a sniper behind every window... It will be very costly for the invaders.

jimbomaybe 03-13-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2071851)
Urban warfare is the most difficult , a sniper behind every window... It will be very costly for the invaders.

Would it not be a matter of just how much damage you are willing to inflict? sniper in a building? call in artillery, reduce building , worked in WW2

Taltarzac725 03-13-2022 11:10 AM

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The facts will eventually get to powerful Russians. I hope they see that Putin cannot win without causing a much larger war in the process.

Aces4 03-13-2022 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2071912)
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The facts will eventually get to powerful Russians. I hope they see that Putin cannot win without causing a much larger war in the process.


You forget the two world bullies have nukes and now China is warning weaponry is not to be brought into Taiwan or else… This is not going to end well, enjoy each day you have.

manaboutown 03-13-2022 02:12 PM

Stalin would view Putin as a Boy Scout.

The Ukrainian Famine: How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions - HISTORY

Major Soviet Paper Says 20 Million Died As Victims of Stalin - The New York Times

Although old Josef might envy Putin's Palace! Putin's Palace - Wikipedia

fishon 03-13-2022 02:27 PM

An old Battalion Commander once told me that you should pound the enemy with long range ordinance unmercifully before committing troops.
It seems that the Russians are following a slow methodical advance, saving the troops for the occupation.

MartinSE 03-13-2022 02:35 PM

I guess we will find out how crazy Putin really is. He is threatening to target weapons systems bing brought into Ukraine. If he does that while they are still in Poland, then we have an attack on a NATO ally and will have to respond. If we have to respond, I hope we respond with overwhelming force and not get into a tit-for-tat match.

Aces4 03-13-2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2071970)
I guess we will find out how crazy Putin really is. He is threatening to target weapons systems bing brought into Ukraine. If he does that while they are still in Poland, then we have an attack on a NATO ally and will have to respond. If we have to respond, I hope we respond with overwhelming force and not get into a tit-for-tat match.

I think you don’t have to worry about tit for tat, Russia is way ahead of the US in nuke weapons.

davem4616 03-13-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2071917)
You forget the two world bullies have nukes and now China is warning weaponry is not to be brought into Taiwan or else… This is not going to end well, enjoy each day you have.


I agree

no good is going to come of this

MartinSE 03-13-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2071977)
I think you don’t have to worry about tit for tat, Russia is way ahead of the US in nuke weapons.

Sorry, you are completely wrong on that post. I am not sure where you get that, but we both have the ability to completely destroy each other.


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