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midiwiz 05-02-2022 01:21 PM

Never saw this before on any system
 
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retiredguy123 05-02-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2091338)
So I walk out to realign the sprinklers, and go to the box.... mind you it has been on and running ... I open the LV box . and my system is turned to "run" yet it only says "OFF" .... I've never had any system do that.

Without getting too overboard, is there a cause that I am missing on the root cause?

It sounds like your rain sensor has temporally turned off the system. Does it say "sensor" under the "off" message? You still should be able to run the system manually. Just turn the dial to manual, select the zone you want to run with the right arrow, and turn the dial back to the run position.

Note you could also turn the rain sensor button to the bypass position.

Stu from NYC 05-02-2022 01:55 PM

This is why I am happy to pay someone who knows what he is doing (not me) to maintain system for me.

Did hire Massey and in one year sent 5 different technicians who did it 5 different ways so hired a neighbor who knows how to do this.

retiredguy123 05-02-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2091343)
This is why I am happy to pay someone who knows what he is doing (not me) to maintain system for me.

Did hire Massey and in one year sent 5 different technicians who did it 5 different ways so hired a neighbor who knows how to do this.

The problem is that there are many different controller models and most technicians have never read any of the manuals. For DIYers, print off the user manual for your controller model, and read it. You will know more about how it works than most technicians who come to your house. I pay someone to maintain the outside sprinklers and fix leaks, but I won't let them touch the controller panel.

Stu from NYC 05-02-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2091350)
The problem is that there are many different controller models and most technicians have never read any of the manuals. For DIYers, print off the user manual for your controller model, and read it. You will know more about how it works than most technicians who come to your house. I pay someone to maintain the outside sprinklers and fix leaks, but I won't let them touch the controller panel.

Would have thought TV would have standardized on controllers. I did listen to about 7 minutes of explanation on U Tube and at the end thought I knew less than before.

photo1902 05-02-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2091371)
Would have thought TV would have standardized on controllers. I did listen to about 7 minutes of explanation on U Tube and at the end thought I knew less than before.

They install Hunter irrigation controllers. Based on the age of your home, different models were used/changed, as time went on. In addition to changes in models, that also required a change from rain sensors to SolarSync sensors.

The newest model of the controllers allow for the addition of a Wi-Fi model, so you can controller from a phone/tablet/computer.

The controllers are basically the same, and as one poster stated, manuals are available on Hunter's website. In addition, Hunter has excellent customer support, to include homeowners...not just us contractors. Hunter also has many videos, which can be an excellent resource for learning how the systems work.

midiwiz 05-02-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2091339)
It sounds like your rain sensor has temporally turned off the system. Does it say "sensor" under the "off" message? You still should be able to run the system manually. Just turn the dial to manual, select the zone you want to run with the right arrow, and turn the dial back to the run position.

Note you could also turn the rain sensor button to the bypass position.

nope didn't say sensor anywhere I know to look for that. just said "OFF" on a blank screen.

Very strange. While yes I did the rest, that wasn't the point - it's all about that very strange message.

Bogie Shooter 05-02-2022 03:32 PM

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midiwiz 05-02-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2091343)
This is why I am happy to pay someone who knows what he is doing (not me) to maintain system for me.

Did hire Massey and in one year sent 5 different technicians who did it 5 different ways so hired a neighbor who knows how to do this.

this isn't maintenence, once setup properly the 'guy' is a waste of money. These heads which aren't the stock heads TV puts in, only need to get looked at 3-4 times a year. these systems are far too easy to deal with. The box is only a electronic timer/switch box that sends current to the selenoids outside to turn them on or off - simple electronic valve setup, it's not rocket science. the rest is child's play. I've already restructured the ridiculous builder setup, what a joke that was far too many heads and not enough pressure because of it.

I did what you are suggesting back in 06 when we moved to FL.... I learned first time - don't need him. since what he screwed up I fixed the next weekend permanently.

but thanks anyway , keep on paying the guy to do whatever it is they do these days.

retiredguy123 05-02-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2091377)
nope didn't say sensor anywhere I know to look for that. just said "OFF" on a blank screen.

Very strange. While yes I did the rest, that wasn't the point - it's all about that very strange message.

I have a Hunter Pro-C controller. The screen always says OFF when the rain sensor turns it off. But, it also says "sensor" on the screen. There are several different Hunter models in use in The Villages.

photo1902 05-02-2022 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2091381)
I have a Hunter Pro-C controller. The screen always says OFF when the rain sensor turns it off. But, it also says "sensor" on the screen. There are several different Hunter models in use in The Villages.

That is very true. And depending on the controller installed, it may not include the "sensor" portion on the display.

If the OP would include the model name, it'd help.

Stu from NYC 05-02-2022 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2091379)
this isn't maintenence, once setup properly the 'guy' is a waste of money. These heads which aren't the stock heads TV puts in, only need to get looked at 3-4 times a year. these systems are far too easy to deal with. The box is only a electronic timer/switch box that sends current to the selenoids outside to turn them on or off - simple electronic valve setup, it's not rocket science. the rest is child's play. I've already restructured the ridiculous builder setup, what a joke that was far too many heads and not enough pressure because of it.

I did what you are suggesting back in 06 when we moved to FL.... I learned first time - don't need him. since what he screwed up I fixed the next weekend permanently.

but thanks anyway , keep on paying the guy to do whatever it is they do these days.

My money get to spend it my way, he adjusts the flow periodically and changes times depending upon the season. Based on what he has saved me compared to Massey money well spent.

photo1902 05-02-2022 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2091385)
My money get to spend it my way, he adjusts the flow periodically and changes times depending upon the season. Based on what he has saved me compared to Massey money well spent.

It's amazing how people want to belittle others for how they spend their money. And let's face it, there are some jobs a homeowner simply doesn't want to mess with. It reminds me of the Andy Griffith episode, where Andy constantly requests Aunt Bea to "call the man" :)

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-02-2022 06:17 PM

The previous owners left the little instruction booklet for ours right on top of the box in the shed. We found they were over-watering, so we changed it ourselves. It wasn't difficult, just had to follow the instructions.

thevillages2013 05-02-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2091338)
So I walk out to realign the sprinklers, and go to the box.... mind you it has been on and running ... I open the LV box . and my system is turned to "run" yet it only says "OFF" .... I've never had any system do that.

Without getting too overboard, is there a cause that I am missing on the root cause?

Was this after the rain we had overnight Saturday/ Sunday morning? If not then your rain sensor should not have cut it off. Mine just reads OFF when in the run position and the sensor shuts it off. Flip the switch to make the sensor inactive to do your work on the irrigation


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