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Babubhat 05-09-2022 05:54 AM

How is your portfolio holding up?
 
Stocks and bonds in bear market. Crypto and commodities getting crushed today. Housing prices have topped. Cash and being short look like the only positive returns. Big liquidity trap.

Stu from NYC 05-09-2022 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2093700)
Stocks and bonds in bear market. Crypto and commodities getting crushed today. Housing prices have topped. Cash and being short look like the only positive returns. Big liquidity trap.

When you consider inflation and paying taxes on the pitiful small interest rates available nothing is giving a positive return.

Markets go up and down and nobody can consistently figure out the highs and lows.

retiredguy123 05-09-2022 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2093700)
Stocks and bonds in bear market. Crypto and commodities getting crushed today. Housing prices have topped. Cash and being short look like the only positive returns. Big liquidity trap.

40 percent stocks, 40 percent bonds, 20 percent cash. My portfolio is down about 9 percent since the beginning of the year. Last year, it was up 10 percent for the year. Selling would mean huge capital gains. Fortunately, I live off of my pension.

JoelJohnson 05-09-2022 07:18 AM

I'll let you know in 5 years.

Robbb 05-09-2022 07:46 AM

Turns out bond funds were the "big lie" of the decade, all the risk none of the returns.

manaboutown 05-09-2022 08:19 AM

I am waiting for the market to bottom as I just sold a commercial property at an unbelievably low cap rate and now have cash to invest (after paying a huge tax bill).

Patience is a virtue, at least in this market.

Rents still coming in well. The houses I own are still appreciating according to Zillow for whatever that's worth. I sleep well at night.

Stu from NYC 05-09-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2093764)
I am waiting for the market to bottom as I just sold a commercial property at an unbelievably low cap rate and now have cash to invest (after paying a huge tax bill).

Patience is a virtue, at least in this market.

Rents still coming in well. The houses I own are still appreciating according to Zillow for whatever that's worth. I sleep well at night.

How in the world will you know when the market bottoms out? Dollar cost averaging works the best for times like this.

RICH1 05-09-2022 08:30 AM

65 year old Day traders are jumping off Step stools ! A good Broker is only as good as the Market…

manaboutown 05-09-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2093765)
How in the world will you know when the market bottoms out? Dollar cost averaging works the best for times like this.

I can't possibly know "the bottom" but am planning some purchases when P/E ratios drop to about their historical averages. At present it seems to me the market will drop further due to inflation, rising interest rates, issues due to the war in Ukraine and other factors.

Babubhat 05-09-2022 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by melpetezrinski (Post 2093826)
"nothing is making money"? How about commodities?

Not today. Apple chart just broke support. Massive put buying 15 points below. Timber!

Prince would say going to party like it’s 1929.

History channel says:
The Market—And People—Were Overconfident

Some experts argue that at the time of the crash, stocks were wildly overpriced and that a collapse was imminent.

That same sense of reckless overconfidence extended to average consumers and small investors, too, leading to an “asset bubble.” The crash happened after a long period of rising market growth that led to consumer overconfidence.

In fact, after 1922, the stock market had increased by nearly 20 percent each year until 1929.

Rainger99 05-09-2022 10:41 AM

Everything is down! I lost more last month than i made my first three years of working (before taxes)!

melpetezrinski 05-09-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2093829)
Not today. Apple chart just broke support. Massive put buying 15 points below. Timber!

No, not today but one day declines in an asset class doesn't really warrant the claim that "nothing is making money". And yes, buying put options ARE making money, as well as, shorting the market.

Babubhat 05-09-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by melpetezrinski (Post 2093840)
No, not today but one day declines in an asset class doesn't really warrant the claim that "nothing is making money". And yes, buying put options ARE making money, as well as, shorting the market.

Sqqq has been the G.O.A.T

Stu from NYC 05-09-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by melpetezrinski (Post 2093840)
No, not today but one day declines in an asset class doesn't really warrant the claim that "nothing is making money". And yes, buying put options ARE making money, as well as, shorting the market.

Anything can make money until they dont.

rustyp 05-09-2022 12:37 PM

Let's assume you have less than 5 years to live would you get out of the market now and wait for volatility to stabilize and then get back in ? Riding out the market and waiting for a comeback makes no money. Getting out now and getting back in at a lower point makes money when the comeback comes. Staying in for the long term is a good strategy if you have a long term. So if you are willing to play the odds on the stock market per history why would one not be willing to play the odds on life expectancy per history ?


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