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Bilyclub 05-17-2022 07:55 AM

Lady Lake commissioner changes vote on SS.
 
Interesting development: “I voted no at the last commission meeting because of the emotion in this place. It was a bad vote and I am not ashamed to admit it,” Freeman said at Monday’s meeting. He said the taxpayers of Lady Lake should not pay for a lawsuit that could potentially cost up to $500,000 “because of an argument with the Morse family.” He said the town, which was sued by The Villages last year, would have little to no chance of prevailing in the lawsuit.

“They have every right to build apartments,” said Freeman, a resident of Water Oak.

dewilson58 05-17-2022 08:04 AM

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Waiting for all the "he was bot" posters.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:


:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Stu from NYC 05-17-2022 08:22 AM

Hey I can be #1.

Wonder what the cost of changing someones vote is now.

tophcfa 05-17-2022 08:43 AM

Zoning decisions rarely end with opposing parties both being happy with the results, but typically everyone involved respectfully accepts the process and lives with the decision. Unfortunately, when one party has seemingly unlimited resources and “lawyers up” to force a desired outcome, it completely discredits the whole zoning process. Anyone paying attention saw this coming! It’s very sad when the arbiter between parties disregards the process of following zoning bylaws because of the fear of crippling legal expenses. So much for a system of checks and balances?

Babubhat 05-17-2022 08:51 AM

Less lawsuits, no brainer. Spanish springs is depressing. Needs a total overhaul

Stu from NYC 05-17-2022 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2096241)
Zoning decisions rarely end with opposing parties both being happy with the results, but typically everyone involved respectfully accepts the process and lives with the decision. Unfortunately, when one party has seemingly unlimited resources and “lawyers up” to force a desired outcome, it completely discredits the whole zoning process. Anyone paying attention saw this coming! It’s very sad when the arbiter between parties disregards the process of following zoning bylaws because of the fear of crippling legal expenses. So much for a system of checks and balances?

Sad but so true. The developer;s political power grows as this place grows so what he wants he gets.

PugMom 05-17-2022 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2096234)
Hey I can be #1.

Wonder what the cost of changing someones vote is now.

:boom:

rustyp 05-17-2022 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2096208)
Interesting development: “I voted no at the last commission meeting because of the emotion in this place. It was a bad vote and I am not ashamed to admit it,” Freeman said at Monday’s meeting. He said the taxpayers of Lady Lake should not pay for a lawsuit that could potentially cost up to $500,000 “because of an argument with the Morse family.” He said the town, which was sued by The Villages last year, would have little to no chance of prevailing in the lawsuit.

“They have every right to build apartments,” said Freeman, a resident of Water Oak.

I don't understand. If the developer has every right to build apartments why were they seeking a zoning variance ?

Happydaz 05-17-2022 10:28 AM

I get confused about this situation. If the developer has every right to add apartments to Spanish Springs why does he need approval from Lady Lake? If he needs approval then it seems that the current zoning regulations do not permit apartments in SS. If that is true then the developer needed to change current zoning regulations in order to add apartments. Why can’t a town vote to not change their zoning even though the developer demands it? The threat of intimidation through a lawsuit should not deter a town from voting for what they and their constituents want. Why is this person changing his vote? Why did he really change his mind?

joldnol 05-17-2022 10:42 AM

Payola
 
Someone got paid

dewilson58 05-17-2022 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 2096275)
I get confused about this situation.

So many questions.
You might want to do research if you really want answers.
This ain't the place.
:ho:

Happydaz 05-17-2022 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2096280)
So many questions.
You might want to do research if you really want answers.
This ain't the place.
:ho:

This is definitely the place to do research and raise questions. You seem to post on here all the time. You appear to have a definite point of view, favoring Spanish Springs apartments, favoring rebuilding the rotten windmill and water tank in Brownwood, etc., if one didn’t know better, one might assume you work for the interests of the developer.

dewilson58 05-17-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 2096281)
This is definitely the place to do research ...........

You've been here longer than I.
This is not the place for research.
This place is 90% opinion, 10% fact.

Like my first post, jus waiting for the "he was bot" posters.........you did not disappoint.

:MOJE_whot:

Villages Kahuna 05-17-2022 11:33 AM

The Developer Will Always Win….
 
… in this case they bought a Commissioner. In the case of Sumter County, they’re sending two commissioners to prison on a phone baloney felony charge. We might as well lay back and enjoy it.

Spanish Springs is being repurposed from a retail, dining, entertainment venue to neighborhood of rental apartments. The nearest houses being sold by the Developer are over 15 miles away. There is no need to provide entertainment that far away. Brownwood serves that purpose.The limited retail and dining base that survives won’t be able to continue to pay for the nightly entertainment.

Get used to it. The restaurants and retail that will have their parking taken away and will fail and be replaced with apartments. That’s the plan, Spanish Springs will be ‘repurposed’. The Developer will have a neat twist on what’s happening, so buy in, lay back and enjoy it! There’s nothing you can to stop it.

Stu from NYC 05-17-2022 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096296)
… in this case they bought a Commissioner. In the case of Sumter County, they’re sending two commissioners to prison on a phone baloney felony charge. We might as well lay back and enjoy it.

Spanish Springs is being repurposed from a retail, dining, entertainment venue to neighborhood of rental apartments. The nearest houses being sold by the Developer are over 15 miles away. There is no need to provide entertainment that far away. Brownwood serves that purpose.The limited retail and dining base that survives won’t be able to continue to pay for the nightly entertainment.

Get used to it. The restaurants and retail that will have their parking taken away and will fail and be replaced with apartments. That’s the plan, Spanish Springs will be ‘repurposed’. The Developer will have a neat twist on what’s happening, so buy in, lay back and enjoy it! There’s nothing you can to stop it.

And we can read how great this is for us in the Sun.


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