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Michael G. 06-07-2022 11:16 AM

Being Informed on Being a Medicare Enrollee
 
I heard this before but forgot the correct term until now.

Are you a Medicare enrollee? If so, ask this question the next time you visit a hospital for care: “Am I admitted, or am I here for observation?”
Failing to do so could potentially cost you thousands of dollars.


Most here I sure know about this and ask the right question.
It's sad that the hospitals don't do the right thing for us seniors.

DAVES 06-07-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2103555)
I heard this before but forgot the correct term until now.

Are you a Medicare enrollee? If so, ask this question the next time you visit a hospital for care: “Am I admitted, or am I here for observation?”
Failing to do so could potentially cost you thousands of dollars.


Most here I sure know about this and ask the right question.
It's sad that the hospitals don't do the right thing for us seniors.

Stress is bad for cholesterol count. Worrying about could be, is unneeded stress.

Michael G. 06-07-2022 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2103688)
Stress is bad for cholesterol count. Worrying about could be, is unneeded stress.

Right! Even if it means costing you thousands of dollars.

Becca9800 06-07-2022 05:13 PM

There's a misunderstanding here...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2103555)
I heard this before but forgot the correct term until now.

Are you a Medicare enrollee? If so, ask this question the next time you visit a hospital for care: “Am I admitted, or am I here for observation?”
Failing to do so could potentially cost you thousands of dollars.


Most here I sure know about this and ask the right question.
It's sad that the hospitals don't do the right thing for us seniors.

Hospitals are required by law to inform patients if they're 'Observation' or 'Admitted'. It's a law that's been on the books for years. Google 'are hospitals required to tell patients if admitted or observation?'

Michael G. 06-07-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 2103694)
Hospitals are required by law to inform patients if they're 'Observation' or 'Admitted'. It's a law that's been on the books for years. Google 'are hospitals required to tell patients if admitted or observation?'



BUT do hospitals tell the patient which one to choose so Medicare pays for the stay????

That's my whole point.

Becca9800 06-07-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2103701)
BUT do hospitals tell the patient which one to choose so Medicare pays for the stay????

That's my whole point.

Your wrath is misdirected. So you think nurses/physicians, the ones who tell you that you're going to be 'admitted', are out to screw you? You think they have something to gain? Having been personally involved in this exact situation on many, many occasions, I made certain my patient understood the difference. If you want to be angry at someone please go after the government department that introduced 'Observation'. These 'Observation' cases are people that don't meet 'Admission' criteria but the attending physician doesn't feel it's safe to send them home. Be angry w those who developed 'admission criteria'. Be angry with those who took the physician's decision-making powers away. You know, the suits that sit behind a desk and haven't a clue.

countrycomfort1 06-07-2022 05:45 PM

So if they say observation then what ? Are we going to refuse the stay at the hospital?

Bogie Shooter 06-07-2022 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 2103709)
Your wrath is misdirected. So you think nurses/physicians, the ones who tell you that you're going to be 'admitted', are out to screw you? You think they have something to gain? Having been personally involved in this exact situation on many, many occasions, I made certain my patient understood the difference. If you want to be angry at someone please go after the government department that introduced 'Observation'. These 'Observation' cases are people that don't meet 'Admission' criteria but the attending physician doesn't feel it's safe to send them home. Be angry w those who developed 'admission criteria'. Be angry with those who took the physician's decision-making powers away. You know, the suits that sit behind a desk and haven't a clue.

:boom:

TJ_Woody 06-08-2022 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 2103709)
Your wrath is misdirected. So you think nurses/physicians, the ones who tell you that you're going to be 'admitted', are out to screw you? You think they have something to gain? Having been personally involved in this exact situation on many, many occasions, I made certain my patient understood the difference. If you want to be angry at someone please go after the government department that introduced 'Observation'. These 'Observation' cases are people that don't meet 'Admission' criteria but the attending physician doesn't feel it's safe to send them home. Be angry w those who developed 'admission criteria'. Be angry with those who took the physician's decision-making powers away. You know, the suits that sit behind a desk and haven't a clue.

The biggest problem in health care today is bean counters and politicians being in charge of care instead of doctors and patients.

sallyg 06-08-2022 07:07 AM

Excellent reminder. Do not stay for "observation" as you will be billed for it. If they don't feel you need to be admitted maybe think twice about staying,

Villages Kahuna 06-08-2022 07:30 AM

One thing for sure, unless you are admitted to the hospital for three days before discharge, you are not admissible for subsequent resident physical therapy. If you are only in the hospital for observation and then wish to go to residential physical therapy, you pay the full cost. Or alternatively you’re limited to in-home physical therapy.

Villages Kahuna 06-08-2022 07:34 AM

It’s the insurance companies far moreso than politicians. They’re the “death committees” so often criticized in prior TV commercials.

MartinSE 06-08-2022 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2103555)
I heard this before but forgot the correct term until now.

Are you a Medicare enrollee? If so, ask this question the next time you visit a hospital for care: “Am I admitted, or am I here for observation?”
Failing to do so could potentially cost you thousands of dollars.


Most here I sure know about this and ask the right question.
It's sad that the hospitals don't do the right thing for us seniors.

Last time I checked most hospitals are for-profit, when a for-profit company has to make a decision, "right or profitable" I think we know which they chose. It's called predatory capitalism and it is all around us.

I can't overstate how happy I am to no longer be in that healthcare system. I didn't realize I qualified for VA healthcare until I was retired. Now, 10 years later I am amazed at how great the Gainesville VA hospital is. I see all the issues with healthcare here in The Villages, and I am reminded of what I used to have to go through. My wife is also in the VA system and we often look at each other and say how we wish everyone could have healthcare that is focused on keeping us healthy instead of focused on making money like we have in the VA system.

Next time you get a chance vote for Universal health care, single-payer healthcare, or whatever catchy term they come up with. You won't regret it.

MSGirl 06-08-2022 08:30 AM

Medicare Enrollee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2103555)
I heard this before but forgot the correct term until now.

Are you a Medicare enrollee? If so, ask this question the next time you visit a hospital for care: “Am I admitted, or am I here for observation?”
Failing to do so could potentially cost you thousands of dollars.


Most here I sure know about this and ask the right question.
It's sad that the hospitals don't do the right thing for us seniors.

Prior to being a Medicare enrollee, I was admitted to the hospital because they knew what I needed. My insurance stated I needed to be placed on observation first. Because I was not, insurance didn’t want to pay. Hospital took care of it and they got their money

butlerperkins@gmail.com 06-08-2022 08:34 AM

"Observation" vs "Admission"
 
2022 0608 Wednesday @ 09:31
Original Medicare with Supplement Plan N (or G) stipulates up to a $50 payment for observation. If admitted, there is no charge. Plans G and N are the most comprehensive for those who turned 65 on or before January 1, 2020.


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