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jebartle 08-14-2022 09:51 AM

My hope...... (not political, only polite dialog)
 
TRUTH will survive lies, (Dragnet, Jack Webb quote, "Give me the facts, ONLY the facts)
Americans will meet in the middle and extremes will be a thing of the past.
I love our country and hope we will survive this bump in the road.
Tone down rhetoric, research all sources.

MartinSE 08-14-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2125808)
TRUTH will survive lies, (Dragnet, Jack Webb quote, "Give me the facts, ONLY the facts)
Americans will meet in the middle and extremes will be a thing of the past.
I love our country and hope we will survive this bump in the road.
Tone down rhetoric, research all sources.

I agree with you, but I have little hope at this point. Many historians are pointing out how similar we are today to the 1930's and the pre-civilwar days. A lot of animosity and intentional attempts to destroy the US from within.

Any of the social media conspiracy spreaders (about a dozen or so) are simply in it for the money/clicks.

Taltarzac725 08-14-2022 10:38 AM

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Two Bills 08-14-2022 11:37 AM

Don't let anyone over 65 run for, or remain in high office.
Nothing new ever comes from old people.
Too immersed in the past.

Stu from NYC 08-14-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2125840)
Don't let anyone over 65 run for, or remain in high office.
Nothing new ever comes from old people.
Too immersed in the past.

Can we compromise at 70. With age in many cases comes wisdom. After 70 most of us not as sharp as when we were younger

Tvflguy 08-14-2022 11:53 AM

IMO, no hope. THEY promote and desire the division. Even on issues where there may be compromise, they don’t in order to kept that divided issue alive.

Truly it’s sad. Sorry to be a Negative Commentary but I tend to be a Realist. And from my view, not very hopeful…. This is NOT a bump in the road. It’s pretty much a humongous hole.

We could be such a great country if it weren’t for the “Parties”. Oh, and definitely TERM LIMITS!!!

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OrangeBlossomBaby 08-14-2022 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2125808)
TRUTH will survive lies, (Dragnet, Jack Webb quote, "Give me the facts, ONLY the facts)
Americans will meet in the middle and extremes will be a thing of the past.
I love our country and hope we will survive this bump in the road.
Tone down rhetoric, research all sources.

As long as we continue to have loud, armed, violent clusters of people running around free and inciting violence, who demand that we all follow party over country, or individual over the Constitution, I will have no faith in the humanity of America.

MartinSE 08-14-2022 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2125840)
Don't let anyone over 65 run for, or remain in high office.
Nothing new ever comes from old people.
Too immersed in the past.

Totally agreed, term limits for everyone, including SCOTUS, age limits for everyone (forced retirement at 65), etc. And I would not oppose only women for a few terms, men have ruled the world for thousands of years time for women to have a turn.

MartinSE 08-14-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2125849)
IMO, no hope. THEY promote and desire the division. Even on issues where there may be compromise, they don’t in order to kept that divided issue alive.

Truly it’s sad. Sorry to be a Negative Commentary but I tend to be a Realist. And from my view, not very hopeful…. This is NOT a bump in the road. It’s pretty much a humongous hole.

We could be such a great country if it weren’t for the “Parties”. Oh, and definitely TERM LIMITS!!!

Absolutely agree with everything you said.

MartinSE 08-14-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2125847)
Can we compromise at 70. With age in many cases comes wisdom. After 70 most of us not as sharp as when we were younger

I was going to say 50 - LOL! - but, 60 would be a compromise I could get behind.

Bikehike 08-14-2022 04:30 PM

Both sides of the problem have loud, armed, violent clusters of people running around inciting violence

MartinSE 08-14-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikehike (Post 2125913)
Everyone has experienced bias and everyone is guilty of bias in some way shape or form. It's nothing new, it's just more publicized and readily available via smart phones.

The intensity and the magnitude of the division is significantly greater than in a long time. The historians I referred to compare this to the divisions during the 1930's and those just before the civil war.

jswirs 08-15-2022 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2125849)
IMO, no hope. THEY promote and desire the division. Even on issues where there may be compromise, they don’t in order to kept that divided issue alive.

Truly it’s sad. Sorry to be a Negative Commentary but I tend to be a Realist. And from my view, not very hopeful…. This is NOT a bump in the road. It’s pretty much a humongous hole.

We could be such a great country if it weren’t for the “Parties”. Oh, and definitely TERM LIMITS!!!

The largest threat to our country comes from within. (Trying to be PC). However, I do believe in FAITH OVER FEAR, and GOOD WILL TRIUMPH OVER EVIL, eventually.

WingedFoot78 08-15-2022 05:23 AM

True


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