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bsloan1960 09-02-2022 04:30 PM

Home Based Businesses Now Allowed in TV?
 
In our closing documents was a list of rules- one of which was that running a business from your home in TV was not allowed. Since many people are collecting revenue from their YouTube channels dedicated to the subject of life in TV I assume these are businesses. Are there in fact some businesses that are allowed and others that would be shut down? I assume that many Villages operate home based businesses to supplement their income.

Bill14564 09-02-2022 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2132494)
In our closing documents was a list of rules- one of which was that running a business from your home in TV was not allowed. Since many people are collecting revenue from their YouTube channels dedicated to the subject of life in TV I assume these are businesses. Are there in fact some businesses that are allowed and others that would be shut down? I assume that many Villages operate home based businesses to supplement their income.

You need to read that restriction more closely.

Babubhat 09-02-2022 05:19 PM

Check google maps of the area and you will see many businesses at homes

Djean1981 09-02-2022 06:06 PM

I believe the intent is not having customers come and go at your house, which would increase traffic. I'm sure there are youtubers, authors, artists that "sell" their work, which was done at home.

Stu from NYC 09-02-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2132494)
In our closing documents was a list of rules- one of which was that running a business from your home in TV was not allowed. Since many people are collecting revenue from their YouTube channels dedicated to the subject of life in TV I assume these are businesses. Are there in fact some businesses that are allowed and others that would be shut down? I assume that many Villages operate home based businesses to supplement their income.

Where does it say that? Lots of home based businesses in the villages

tophcfa 09-02-2022 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2132510)
I believe the intent is not having customers come and go at your house, which would increase traffic. I'm sure there are youtubers, authors, artists that "sell" their work, which was done at home.

I think that is correct. Home businesses are considered an internal deed restriction, unlike outside decorations which are considered external. External restrictions are enforced by community standards, which I believe is part of the CDD’s. Internal restrictions are enforced by the developer. Unfortunately, internal deed violations appear to be very selectively enforced. Furthermore, it appears the developer looks the other way on enforcing shutting down Air B&B operations. If they enforced that particular restriction it would eliminate a pocket of demand for new home sales, which apparently takes priority. It’s kind of hypocritical to have the deed restrictions and selectively choose which ones should be enforced.

EdFNJ 09-02-2022 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2132494)
In our closing documents was a list of rules- one of which was that running a business from your home in TV was not allowed. Since many people are collecting revenue from their YouTube channels dedicated to the subject of life in TV I assume these are businesses. Are there in fact some businesses that are allowed and others that would be shut down? I assume that many Villages operate home based businesses to supplement their income.

They just don't want drive-in massage parlors, drug dens or hookah lounges where lots of cars will fill the streets. :jester:

JMintzer 09-03-2022 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2132548)
They just don't want drive-in massage parlors, drug dens or hookah lounges where lots of cars will fill the streets. :jester:

Well, there go my retirement plans! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Papa_lecki 09-03-2022 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2132494)
In our closing documents was a list of rules- one of which was that running a business from your home in TV was not allowed. Since many people are collecting revenue from their YouTube channels dedicated to the subject of life in TV I assume these are businesses. Are there in fact some businesses that are allowed and others that would be shut down? I assume that many Villages operate home based businesses to supplement their income.

Why do we care about a couple of grandparents making YouTube videos at home making a few thousand dollars a year?

Laker14 09-03-2022 05:52 AM

Some rules are in place in order to enforce a certain degree of civility. For example, when you see a sign on the boardwalk to a public beach that says "No Alcoholic Beverages", it is unlikely that anyone is going to look into your Yeti cup to see if you've spiked your drink with alcohol. However, if a bunch of college kids set up umbrellas, with towels and coolers and start littering the place up with beer cans, and get rowdy, and disturb others, the alcohol prohibition becomes a convenient way to get the rowdies to either behave, or make them leave.
Applying the same logic to the restrictions on home businesses, as long as the enterprise doesn't affect the peace and quiet of the neighborhood, there is no need to enforce it. If the business creates a daily flow of traffic, parked cars and noise that affects the livability of the neighbors, then it can be enforced.

Stu from NYC 09-03-2022 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2132567)
Well, there go my retirement plans! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Sorry:smiley:

BrianL99 09-03-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2132536)
I think that is correct. Home businesses are considered an internal deed restriction, unlike outside decorations which are considered external. External restrictions are enforced by community standards, which I believe is part of the CDD’s. Internal restrictions are enforced by the developer. Unfortunately, internal deed violations appear to be very selectively enforced. Furthermore, it appears the developer looks the other way on enforcing shutting down Air B&B operations. If they enforced that particular restriction it would eliminate a pocket of demand for new home sales, which apparently takes priority. It’s kind of hypocritical to have the deed restrictions and selectively choose which ones should be enforced.

Where do people come up with this stuff? & why do people who don't know what they're talking about, have the need to present nonsense, like it's fact?

Deed restrictions (in most situations) only concern 3 things: use, appearance & modification. There's no such thing as "internal" or "external". The restrictions are not enforced by the "Developer", they are enforced by the CDD or by someone who's a 3rd part beneficiary to the restriction. If you think your neighbor is violating a restriction and you don't like it, sue.

Most every village in the The Villages, has different Deed Restrictions than their neighboring village. What's prohibited on one street, may be allowed on the street next to it. Generalizing about deed restrictions is a fool's errand.

The definition of the terms "business", "home occupation" as well as AirBnb type operations are in flux, in most every community in the United States and not likely to be settled, any time soon. Times change. Consider the 2nd Amendment. It's been over 200 years and still, no one agrees if AK-47's were what the founding fathers had in mind.

MrFlorida 09-03-2022 06:58 AM

Ask Jerry & Linda

asianthree 09-03-2022 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2132570)
Why do we care about a couple of grandparents making YouTube videos at home making a few thousand dollars a year?

A not so great blogger makes only a few thousand a year,
a good blogger makes $80,000.

A influencer blogger brings in $150,000, and up.

Still calling it running a business out of their home is a stretch.

Bill14564 09-03-2022 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2132606)
Where do people come up with this stuff? & why do people who don't know what they're talking about, have the need to present nonsense, like it's fact?

Deed restrictions (in most situations) only concern 3 things: use, appearance & modification. There's no such thing as "internal" or "external". The restrictions are not enforced by the "Developer", they are enforced by the CDD or by someone who's a 3rd part beneficiary to the restriction. If you think your neighbor is violating a restriction and you don't like it, sue.

Most every village in the The Villages, has different Deed Restrictions than their neighboring village. What's prohibited on one street, may be allowed on the street next to it. Generalizing about deed restrictions is a fool's errand.

The definition of the terms "business", "home occupation" as well as AirBnb type operations are in flux, in most every community in the United States and not likely to be settled, any time soon. Times change. Consider the 2nd Amendment. It's been over 200 years and still, no one agrees if AK-47's were what the founding fathers had in mind.

That's a very good question you pose. You don't live around here or spend much time learning about the form of Govt around here, do you? If you did then you would realize that you are the one lacking knowledge.

Deed restrictions are very similar in every section. Why would they not be? They are all written by the developer and the developer is the same for every section.

Deed restriction agreements are between the homeowner and the developer. The developer has allowed/requested the CDD take action to enforce restrictions applying to the outside of the home (external deed restrictions). Restrictions applying to within the home (internal deed restrictions) are enforced through actions of the developer.

I believe some of the "selective enforcement" of deed restrictions is actually proper enforcement of a misunderstood rule. For example, people hear "residential only, no business" and believe that is the restriction. It is not. The restriction mentions three specific activities that are not allowed. Creating youtube videos or renting the house as an AirBnb does not involve those activities so does not violate that restriction. But to those who don't read the restrictions carefully, it could look as though there is selective enforcement.


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