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Laker14 09-06-2022 09:23 AM

Breakdown of Amenities Budget
 
A recent discussion on pickleballs got me to wondering just how big the total amenities budget is, and where the money all goes.

I scoured the districtgof.org site and could not find a comprehensive budget for amenities for any year.

Any suggestions on how I might get a look at such a document?

tophcfa 09-06-2022 09:32 AM

Don’t know for certain, but my guess would be that north of 466 it would be the Amenity Authority Committee and south of 466 it would be the Project Wide Advisory Committee that would oversee the budgets and be the ones to contact for that information. I would also be curious to see how the two committees budget allocations to the various amenities differ, assuming they do based on the mix of amenities in the different areas.

go4fpsb 09-06-2022 10:01 AM

CDD Budget
 
Go to Village Community Development Districts
Click the the “Your district “
Select the district you reside
Hit Budget

Bill14564 09-06-2022 10:35 AM

For amenities, go to districtgov.org -> Departments -> Budget -> Sumter Landing CDD

Right at the top of the SLCDD budget is the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenities Division) section. This is where amenity fees go for most of us.

The VCCDD budget has a section for the VCRAD which handles amenity fees for the norther area.

I'm not sure about the areas south of 44. Their fees *might* go to SLCDD/SLAD but if the amenities are not yet turned over then the fees and the responsibility might still be with the developer.

Your numbered CDD (CDD10 in my case) and the PWAC do not receive any of the amenity fees. They are funded primarily from maintenance assessments.

Laker14 09-06-2022 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go4fpsb (Post 2133678)
Go to Village Community Development Districts
Click the the “Your district “
Select the district you reside
Hit Budget


That's exactly where I was looking, and just searched again. The budget I find seems to deal entirely with the "Maintenance Assessment" money. I see no line item for "amenity fees" collected, and I see no line items that would pertain to what I understand to be the expenses associated with the amenities, i.e. executive golf maintenance , rec center maintenance, pools, pickleball, tennis etc etc

RICH1 09-06-2022 11:43 AM

I believe our fees are appropriate for what we receive in return…

Laker14 09-06-2022 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2133685)
For amenities, go to districtgov.org -> Departments -> Budget -> Sumter Landing CDD

Right at the top of the SLCDD budget is the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenities Division) section. This is where amenity fees go for most of us.

The VCCDD budget has a section for the VCRAD which handles amenity fees for the norther area.

I'm not sure about the areas south of 44. Their fees *might* go to SLCDD/SLAD but if the amenities are not yet turned over then the fees and the responsibility might still be with the developer.

Your numbered CDD (CDD10 in my case) and the PWAC do not receive any of the amenity fees. They are funded primarily from maintenance assessments.

Got it! thanks!

Here's the link for anyone else interested in this: https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/...20220624sl0101

you have to scroll down a page or two.

UsuallyLurking 09-06-2022 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2133662)
Don’t know for certain, but my guess would be that north of 466 it would be the Amenity Authority Committee and south of 466 it would be the Project Wide Advisory Committee that would oversee the budgets and be the ones to contact for that information. I would also be curious to see how the two committees budget allocations to the various amenities differ, assuming they do based on the mix of amenities in the different areas.

This answer is almost correct. Amenity fees for residents north of 466 are administered by the Amenity Authority Committee (AAC). For residents between 466 and 44, they are administered by the Project Wide Advisory Committee (PWAC). For residents south of 44, the amenity fees go to the developer, who is responsible for the maintenance of the facilities south of 44. Budget information for the AAC and PWAC are on the district web site (AAC's easier to look at because PWAC does amenities plus other things).

njbchbum 09-06-2022 05:08 PM

Also found this to be informational - https://www.districtgov.org/departme...0Go%202022.pdf

Vikingjunior 09-06-2022 08:49 PM

Amenity fees should be per person not per household. I can move 10 people into my house and all 10 would get use of amenities. Meanwhile someone living alone has to pay the same amenities fee.
It doesn't take much to prove you're a resident in TV. Just need to change some documents and then change them back after they hand you a resident card which is good for 3 years. If we were paying per person instead of per household there wouldn't be so many fraudulent resident cards floating around.

La lamy 09-07-2022 05:28 AM

A little off topic, but one of my pet peeves is that we don't all pay the same for amenities fees. It doesn't matter when you started paying into it, there should be a set yearly fee for everyone that gets the same privileges. Makes no sense that I pay more because I'm newer than my neighbour.

Speedie 09-07-2022 06:07 AM

Too bad we do not limit amenity use to TV residents that are paying the fee

Laker14 09-07-2022 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedie (Post 2133886)
Too bad we do not limit amenity use to TV residents that are paying the fee

I think the effort is made to do that, but realistically, how much money do you want to spend to have people checking everyone, everywhere, (raising our amenities costs), and how often do you want to be stopped from doing what you're doing so you can fish out your ID card and prove you belong?
At some point the effort to keep out the outsiders is more hassle and expense than having a few cheaters get away with cheating.
That's only my opinion, of course.

jarodrig 09-07-2022 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedie (Post 2133886)
Too bad we do not limit amenity use to TV residents that are paying the fee

You may be confused or don’t understand what our “amenities” are .

The Villages amenities are for Villages residents only .

One common misconception is that the town squares, music, entertainment, etc., is an amenity. It is NOT and that’s why it’s open to the public.

Another example are the movie theaters. They are not an amenity. They are a business like any other business in the area. And no, we were not “promised” there would be 3 theaters, or ANY for that matter.

Please state what Villages amenities are being “violated” because they are <legitimately> open to the public ?

jarodrig 09-07-2022 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2133654)
A recent discussion on pickleballs got me to wondering just how big the total amenities budget is, and where the money all goes.

I scoured the districtgof.org site and could not find a comprehensive budget for amenities for any year.

Any suggestions on how I might get a look at such a document?

GoldWingNut did a nice video regarding the topic….


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