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tophcfa 11-19-2022 10:03 PM

Does anybody now feel like the Villages is a safer place to live?
 
Now that Oren Miller is a convicted felon and is off the streets of the Villages does anyone feel safer? Let’s see, a harmless senior citizen whose trivial crime was misremembering (that’s a Roger Clemens term) the details of some telephone conversations is now behind bars. Meanwhile, wife beaters, drug dealers, drunken drivers, golf cart thieves, and many other dangerous criminals we should all be afraid of are walking around freely on our streets.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. The moral of the story is that it’s not the crime one commits, it’s the people in high places that one rubs the wrong way that really matters.

Taltarzac725 11-19-2022 10:13 PM

I looked at the stuff in the paper lately. I mean theVillages Daily Sun and its coverage of the Oren Miller lying under oath case.

There is something very off about it-- both the case and the coverage.

He did lie under oath. First about talking about donuts and then talking about other stuff in places where the stuff said was in shadows. It seems though that the coverage hardly fits the crime. We will see what kind of sentence he gets.

I have met Oren Miller while he and his wife were out looking for a neighbor's missing pooch. They found it in the house of neighbor on the south side of our house. The neighbor who lost the dog was on the north side. It was the pet of a chef visiting his parents from Atlanta. They lived next door so there was a lot of confusion as the dog tags showed an owner in Atlanta. The Millers were making many calls trying to get the dog home. The chef was out to dinner with his parents and the dog must have slipped out the front door. The neighbors to the south did call the radio station about the dog they had found in their front yard. He had scratched at their front door.

Mrs.Guy 11-19-2022 10:41 PM

:shrug: What I take away from this post is #1.Oren Miller is a convicted felon. #2. Someone's hatred may be showing again.

And

I don't have a degree in Law but I don't think he was convicted of lying about donuts. :rolleyes:

Taltarzac725 11-19-2022 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.Guy (Post 2159139)
:shrug: What I take away from this post is #1.Oren Miller is a convicted felon. #2. Someone's hatred may be showing again.

And

I don't have a degree in Law but I don't think he was convicted of lying about donuts. :rolleyes:

He lied about their talking about some other stuff. I would be very interested though in how much this happens in real life and the culprits are never caught. And if equity would find that throwing the book at Owen Miller was really worth it? Selective prosecution in other words.

Two Bills 11-20-2022 04:22 AM

A minnow taken by a shark.
The charges, however spurious, were not the point.
The point being made, was who really holds the power in The villages.
Point proven!

ureout 11-20-2022 07:10 AM

whether right or wrong I find it amazing how quickly an investigation, trial and verdict can be done. Yet politicians that are being investigated by the federal gov't take multiple years for far more supposed serious crimes ... just 1 example (matt gaetz)

44Apple 11-20-2022 08:23 AM

And, maybe I missed it, but I still haven't seen the Fire Dept results reported in that "paper". Wonder why??

Love2Swim 11-20-2022 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2159130)
Now that Oren Miller is a convicted felon and is off the streets of the Villages does anyone feel safer? Let’s see, a harmless senior citizen whose trivial crime was misremembering (that’s a Roger Clemens term) the details of some telephone conversations is now behind bars. Meanwhile, wife beaters, drug dealers, drunken drivers, golf cart thieves, and many other dangerous criminals we should all be afraid of are walking around freely on our streets.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. The moral of the story is that it’s not the crime one commits, it’s the people in high places that one rubs the wrong way that really matters.

Well its always been that way, unfortunately. The people in high places have the power. I too was shocked at the sentence, though. Way over the top.

Mrs.Guy 11-20-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2159184)
Well its always been that way, unfortunately. The people in high places have the power. I too was shocked at the sentence, though. Way over the top.

:ohdear: HAS NOT BEEN SENTENCED YET.

Kenswing 11-20-2022 09:27 AM

I feel safer knowing he can’t build his wife her own personal multi million dollar animal rescue facility with our tax dollars.

Taltarzac725 11-20-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2159207)
I feel safer knowing he can’t build his wife her own personal multi million dollar animal rescue facility with our tax dollars.

It is not her personal rescue facility. There were and are many people fighting for a no kill shelter in Sumter County. Things might have changed though with all the news coverage. Maybe that policy changed? They have been at this for years. I mean the Millers and their supporters. So I am not sure when Sumter County became a no kill shelter.

wisbad1 11-20-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2159130)
Now that Oren Miller is a convicted felon and is off the streets of the Villages does anyone feel safer? Let’s see, a harmless senior citizen whose trivial crime was misremembering (that’s a Roger Clemens term) the details of some telephone conversations is now behind bars. Meanwhile, wife beaters, drug dealers, drunken drivers, golf cart thieves, and many other dangerous criminals we should all be afraid of are walking around freely on our streets.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. The moral of the story is that it’s not the crime one commits, it’s the people in high places that one rubs the wrong way that really matters.

Sad story for sure. Why’s grandpa in jail? Child molesters walking around freely, druggies and he’s locked up. God help us please.

Taltarzac725 11-20-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 2159214)
Sad story for sure. Why’s grandpa in jail? Child molesters walking around freely, druggies and he’s locked up. God help us please.

He is not a shrewd politician with an army of lawyers. His approach to doing business was not well done. He has not been in the game long. The Villages Daily Sun did a real number on him though with multiple front page articles going over the same "facts".

Kenswing 11-20-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 2159214)
Sad story for sure. Why’s grandpa in jail? Child molesters walking around freely, druggies and he’s locked up. God help us please.

I’d be very surprised if he got much time if any. Probably community service and probation.

This whole thing would have been a big nothingburger if he would have simply admitted that he made a mistake by secretly talking about county business. But instead he decided to lie under oath. That has proven to be a stupid decision.

Taltarzac725 11-20-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2159221)
I’d be very surprised if he got much time if any. Probably community service and probation.

This whole thing would have been a big nothingburger if he would have simply admitted that he made a mistake by secretly talking about county business. But instead he decided to lie under oath. That has proven to be a stupid decision.

That's true.


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