Deplorable conditions at Havana
 

The developer should be embarrassed to charge $67 plus tax to play on some of the courses in The Villages. My group of 19 played Havana today and every player complained about the poor shape of the greens and the tight lies in the fairway. I think that the prices should fluctuate based on the conditions for that day. Glenview and Lopez always seem to be in great shape while other course vary from week to week. Today, Havana was not worth what we paid for it and our 2 guests had to pay over $80 to play.

Havana. 352-750-8085, ask for the pro.
Or did you already speak with him?

Had you checked this site prior to booking, you probably wouldn't have gone to Havana, it's been a topic of discussion for weeks. It's in horrendous condition. If they were handing out $100 bills on the 1st Tee, I still wouldn't play there.

Not sure what it is about Havana, in general no complaints about championship conditions, but that course is always the exception. Even Orange Blossom has far superior conditions, especially the greens. It’s a shame, Hemingway to Kilimanjaro is one of the better 18 holes in the Championship rotation assuming the conditions are decent, which they almost never are. Whoever is accountable for the conditions of that particular course needs to be replaced with someone who can perform up to the task.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Then let's fire and hire staff based on conditions/revenues.
Then, Then we perform maintenance conditions/revenues.

We avoid playing Havana, just terrible shape.

Or maybe we should assign tee times based on ability and not points. That would eliminate many of the slow play concerns.

I’m curious, how many carts in your group of nineteen. How many of those golfers drive ALL OVER THE FAIRWAYS rather than staying on the cart path or in the rough until you get to a point where you CROSS the fairway to your ball. Also how many of your group totally disregard the exit markers and drive all the way up to the green???. My point is, you can’t abuse the golf course and expect it to remain in pristine condition. And then there’s the people who seem to refuse to repair ball marks, rake bunkers, and attempt to retrieve their ball from the cup with the handle. Oh yes let’s not forget dragging your feet all over the green.

My point is, it’s not the growing season AND we must do all we can to give the courses time to breathe.

Ability and Slow Play are not always linked.

Si Woo Kim and John Catlin to name a couple.

The corporate greed machine has no limits and no conscience.

The difference between "pristine" and "Villages condition" is roughly triple the distance from the Earth to Mars.

Cane garden course
 

I agree with conditions at Havana,terrible. We played Cane Garden yesterday ,it was worse than Havana. Weeds all over fairways , bare tee boxes , greens were a disaster. Hacienda has been in terrible condition, Bonifay and Belle Glade not much better. I heard the villages cut back on the money they pay the outside firm to maintain the courses. We need to make our voices heard.

Everyone talks about it, but no one is willing to do anything about it.

Golfers should be embarrassed for paying, not the Developer for charging.

:faint:

Didn’t the championship courses lose revenue this year when the trail fee that was part of the enhancement membership was transferred to the development districts?

Are the executive courses better this year vs last since they have that revenue?