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OrangeBlossomBaby 06-05-2023 09:14 PM

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Really interesting documentary/interview about the Duggar family and the IBLP (Institute of Basic Life Principals). It's on Amazon Prime, split into four episodes since it's over 2 hours long total.

It really does explain a WHOLE lot about some of the attitudes of intolerance that have gotten worse over the past 15-20 years in this country.

mtdjed 06-05-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223851)
Really interesting documentary/interview about the Duggar family and the IBLP (Institute of Basic Life Principals). It's on Amazon Prime, split into four episodes since it's over 2 hours long total.

It really does explain a WHOLE lot about some of the attitudes of intolerance that have gotten worse over the past 15-20 years in this country.

Is this the Group that created the documentary?? "In addition to adherence to the Bible and Christian ideals, the IBLP considers males, in particular the patriarch of a family, to be superior, whereas females are expected to obey men in every way. This includes in the home, school, workplace, and marriage.."

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-05-2023 09:59 PM

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Is this the Group that created the documentary?? "In addition to adherence to the Bible and Christian ideals, the IBLP considers males, in particular the patriarch of a family, to be superior, whereas females are expected to obey men in every way. This includes in the home, school, workplace, and marriage.."

That's the one, yeah. They're "Quiverfull" cultists. A woman's function is to keep the home and breed - until her body stops allowing her to be pregnant. So basically until having a final kid kills her. Children are the future leaders of the new world order where the entire planet adheres to their doctrine and dogma. They will be the army (they have actual quasi-military training for the boys) that enforces the dominance of blah blah blah blah.

And yes I realize that sounds like a really bad dystopian novel. But it's a real actual thing, and it is the basis of the Duggar Family (19 and Counting, and Josh Duggar who was arrested for sexually abusing at least 5 people - including at least 2 of his own sisters). There are possibly tens of thousands of members of this cult scattered around the country and in several other countries. It was founded in 1961 but it's grown exponentially over the past decade or so.

mtdjed 06-05-2023 10:20 PM

I prefer comedy. I could not imagine wasting my time on negative cult group drama. But each to his/her choice. Perhaps due to age, the importance and priority of issues does change with age.

Kelevision 06-06-2023 06:30 AM

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I prefer comedy. I could not imagine wasting my time on negative cult group drama. But each to his/her choice. Perhaps due to age, the importance and priority of issues does change with age.

There are lots of us who always like learning about new things. Keeps the brain sharp. To the OP, I saw this advertised. I’m watching a great show on Amazon called From. I’ll watch it for sure. I also just watched the Jared from Subway Doc. Really interesting.

mickey100 06-06-2023 06:38 AM

There's another movie I plan on streaming. It's called "The Brainwashing of my Dad". It's about a normal guy, a loving father, who became addicted to rightwing hate news and became a different person - angry and paranoid, a right wing fanatic, who became difficult to spend time with. I think many of us have a friend or family member like that.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-06-2023 09:00 AM

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I prefer comedy. I could not imagine wasting my time on negative cult group drama. But each to his/her choice. Perhaps due to age, the importance and priority of issues does change with age.

You are living with the results of that "negative cult group drama." One of them even got nominated for the Arkansas House of Representatives (he lost, but he earned the nomination). Refusing to pay attention to the world around you is how the world can suddenly snatch you up and spit you out. When you're upset because your insurance company says you have to pay $20,000 for a new roof or lose your homeowners insurance, it's because you weren't paying attention. When your granddaughter dies during a difficult pregnancy because her doctor was afraid of being arrested if he gave her an abortion - it's because you weren't paying attention.

When thousands of homeless people show up in your neighborhood because they were kicked out of another place, and this surprises you, it's because you weren't paying attention.

When your taxes go up and you are surprised by the cost of gas, it's because you weren't paying attention.

You can pay attention or not, it's up to you. But don't come here complaining about sudden changes or things that you finally notice are getting bad/unpleasant.

fdpaq0580 06-06-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223977)
You are living with the results of that "negative cult group drama." One of them even got nominated for the Arkansas House of Representatives (he lost, but he earned the nomination). Refusing to pay attention to the world around you is how the world can suddenly snatch you up and spit you out. When you're upset because your insurance company says you have to pay $20,000 for a new roof or lose your homeowners insurance, it's because you weren't paying attention. When your granddaughter dies during a difficult pregnancy because her doctor was afraid of being arrested if he gave her an abortion - it's because you weren't paying attention.

When thousands of homeless people show up in your neighborhood because they were kicked out of another place, and this surprises you, it's because you weren't paying attention.

When your taxes go up and you are surprised by the cost of gas, it's because you weren't paying attention.

You can pay attention or not, it's up to you. But don't come here complaining about sudden changes or things that you finally notice are getting bad/unpleasant.

We can all come here if we want. Misery loves company, so scoot over and make room. The party is just getting started. And you know that because you pay attention.

PugMom 06-06-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2223903)
There's another movie I plan on streaming. It's called "The Brainwashing of my Dad". It's about a normal guy, a loving father, who became addicted to rightwing hate news and became a different person - angry and paranoid, a right wing fanatic, who became difficult to spend time with. I think many of us have a friend or family member like that.

oh God, that's a Limbaugh hit piece, but whatever

airstreamingypsy 06-07-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2223903)
There's another movie I plan on streaming. It's called "The Brainwashing of my Dad". It's about a normal guy, a loving father, who became addicted to rightwing hate news and became a different person - angry and paranoid, a right wing fanatic, who became difficult to spend time with. I think many of us have a friend or family member like that.

You just described to a T, the guy who shot the black kid last month. Which one, the kid who went to a house and knocked on the door, why was he there? To pick up his little brothers. Only he was one street over, from the correct one.

The shooters grandson said that he and his grandfather used to be close but grew distant in recent years over what he described as his grandfather’s radicalization via conservative media. Ludwig told The Kansas City Star that Lester had “become staunchly right-wing,” going “further down the right-wing rabbit hole as far as doing the election-denying conspiracy stuff and Covid conspiracies and disinformation, fully buying into the Fox News, OAN [One America News Network] kind of line.” Ludwig suggested that the “24-hour news cycle of fear and paranoia” has “radicalized him in a lot of ways.”

Whitley 06-07-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223851)
Really interesting documentary/interview about the Duggar family and the IBLP (Institute of Basic Life Principals). It's on Amazon Prime, split into four episodes since it's over 2 hours long total.

It really does explain a WHOLE lot about some of the attitudes of intolerance that have gotten worse over the past 15-20 years in this country.

I would recommend watching "What Is A Woman". It is by Matt Walsh and was on The Daily Wire, but can now be watched, free, on Twitter and YouTube. It definitely portrays just how crazy certain intolerant groups are; groups who get angry and hostile when asked "What Is A Woman". Definitely recommend watching it.
Matt Walsh is also the author of one of the best selling trans books titled "Johnny The Walrus"

Whitley 06-07-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223855)
That's the one, yeah. They're "Quiverfull" cultists. A woman's function is to keep the home and breed - until her body stops allowing her to be pregnant. So basically until having a final kid kills her. .

That is so sad. All of those kids growing up without a Mom.

Villages Kahuna 06-07-2023 08:29 AM

Scary

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-07-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2224220)
I would recommend watching "What Is A Woman". It is by Matt Walsh and was on The Daily Wire, but can now be watched, free, on Twitter and YouTube. It definitely portrays just how crazy certain intolerant groups are; groups who get angry and hostile when asked "What Is A Woman". Definitely recommend watching it.
Matt Walsh is also the author of one of the best selling trans books titled "Johnny The Walrus"

That is an ANTI-trans book, not a trans book. And Matt Walsh IS crazy, intolerant, and gets angry and hostile about trans-gender. He is an alt-right extreme homophobe who was kicked off his first few platforms because of it and is now relegated to spouting his nonsense only on other alt-right media.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-07-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2224221)
That is so sad. All of those kids growing up without a Mom.

Not at all. Duggar had 19 kids. The job of the oldest ones is to take care of the youngest ones, so the mom can get back to being pregnant ASAP. That's how it works in this cult. It is this way by design. Spanking, hitting with switches, punishment, isolation, are all tools used to impose strict obedience in the families - their spirits and wills are intentionally broken during younger childhood so they can be complacent obedient young adults that becomes caretakers for their younger siblings. And so they can be indoctrinated into sincerely believing every bit of insane faux-Christian dogma injected into every thought they have.


And then they go out and run for office in their community - and are elected and popularized. And then they can impose their "tenets" on their constituents in the form of legislation. And then they spread even further to influence others, who enter Congress and Senate, etc. etc. It is incredibly dangerous, and nefarious.


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