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Goldengirl22 06-13-2023 06:58 PM

Bikes on the walking trail ?
 
Hi there, I am all about sharing the walking trails. But I was seriously startled this morning while walking my dog when a bike came up behind me. He blew past me, very close to me, and I couldn't help but think, what if I had moved over just a little bit, I would have walked right into his path, and we both would have been hurt.

Would it not be a good idea for a person coming up behind a walker to ring their bell? And if they don't have one on their bike, get one?

Just curious if other walkers have had this experience.

Kenswing 06-13-2023 07:03 PM

“Most” bikers in my experience will ring their bell or announce “On your right/left” as they pass. There are certainly the ones that don’t though.

Marathon Man 06-13-2023 07:32 PM

When I used to ride, if I announced myself to a walker as I approached them, they would often turn around to look at who was talking to them. And in doing so, would step to the side right in my path. I learned that saying nothing was safer for both myself and the walker. Sorry you were startled. Better than stepping in front of a moving bike and getting injured.

dewilson58 06-13-2023 07:40 PM

Walking with traffic or against traffic??

Biker on his/her side of the path ??

GoPacers 06-13-2023 07:45 PM

I'll admit, I am a bit confused. Walkers should be facing traffic coming at them so a bike coming up behind them would be on the opposite side of the path. That assumes everyone is following the rules...

I run on the multimodal paths frequently and would never expect a bike to let me know they were about to overtake me.

Bill14564 06-13-2023 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 2226107)
I'll admit, I am a bit confused. Walkers should be facing traffic coming at them so a bike coming up behind them would be on the opposite side of the path. That assumes everyone is following the rules...

I run on the multimodal paths frequently and would never expect a bike to let me know they were about to overtake me.

There is no motor vehicle traffic on a walking path so you walk to the right.

On the road or the MMP which have motor vehicle traffic you walk to the left. In that way, traffic on your side of the trail comes towards you while traffic overtaking you would be safely on the other side of the trail.

tophcfa 06-13-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldengirl22 (Post 2226098)
Hi there, I am all about sharing the walking trails. But I was seriously startled this morning while walking my dog when a bike came up behind me. He blew past me, very close to me, and I couldn't help but think, what if I had moved over just a little bit, I would have walked right into his path, and we both would have been hurt.

Would it not be a good idea for a person coming up behind a walker to ring their bell? And if they don't have one on their bike, get one?

Just curious if other walkers have had this experience.

They are not walking trails, they are called pathways and are shared by both walkers (who can bring along their leashed dog) and bikes. Proper etiquette is for walkers to walk single file on the left side of the trail so they can see oncoming bike traffic and for bikers to stay on the right and ride single file. Walkers with dogs need to keep them on a short, non-flexible leash, so they can not wander in front of a bike. If everyone followed proper etiquette, and did not think the pathway was dedicated solely to them, there shouldn’t be any issues.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-13-2023 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 2226107)
I'll admit, I am a bit confused. Walkers should be facing traffic coming at them so a bike coming up behind them would be on the opposite side of the path. That assumes everyone is following the rules...

I run on the multimodal paths frequently and would never expect a bike to let me know they were about to overtake me.

Walkers on a WALKING trail will walk on the right side of the road. They ARE the traffic, they are facing exactly the direction they should be facing, on a walking trail.

tophcfa 06-13-2023 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2226124)
Walkers on a WALKING trail will walk on the right side of the road. They ARE the traffic, they are facing exactly the direction they should be facing, on a walking trail.

True, but if it really was a walking trail bikes wouldn’t be allowed. I believe the OP is referring to what are called pathways, which are a new thing south of 44 and are shared by both bikes and walkers. These are NOT walking trails. The new Black Lake walking trail that begins at the Lake Miona Recreation Center would be a true walking trail, except that dogs are not allowed so many Villagers won’t ever use it.

Marathon Man 06-14-2023 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2226124)
Walkers on a WALKING trail will walk on the right side of the road. They ARE the traffic, they are facing exactly the direction they should be facing, on a walking trail.

They are not WALKING trails. Bikes use them also. Using caps doesn't change it.

Maker 06-14-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2226105)
When I used to ride, if I announced myself to a walker as I approached them, they would often turn around to look at who was talking to them. And in doing so, would step to the side right in my path. I learned that saying nothing was safer for both myself and the walker. Sorry you were startled. Better than stepping in front of a moving bike and getting injured.

Expecting to silently zip past is dangerous, unsafe, and reckless. That's a problem.
If ringing your bike bell startles someone, and causes a movement that places both people in a collision situation, you need to change your style. Ring the bell several times, starting a lot further away. Give walkers time to react and be in a safe spot. Give yourself time to slow down or stop.

A bike rider who fails to warn a pedestrian, and then collides with them causing injuries, will find themselves on the receiving end of a huge lawsuit.
In court, which defense is better... I rang my bell several times and that person looked right at me and saw me coming. I slowed almost to a stop because their dog was jumping in the way. Their dog pulled them to the ground and I stopped before any contact was made with them. (OR) I think it's safer to give pedestrians no warning. I ride so fast that they never know I was coming. This time, I never expected them to move when their dog wandered to the left. I had no time to react and I'm so sorry. They should have stayed in their lane and the dog is at fault.

charlie1 06-14-2023 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2226126)
True, but if it really was a walking trail bikes wouldn’t be allowed. I believe the OP is referring to what are called pathways, which are a new thing south of 44 and are shared by both bikes and walkers. These are NOT walking trails. The new Black Lake walking trail that begins at the Lake Miona Recreation Center would be a true walking trail, except that dogs are not allowed so many Villagers won’t ever use it.

I agree but the rules are that you walk against traffic where motor vehicles are allowed and on the right side on paths where they are not allowed. The problem now is e-bikes have motors and they also go quite fast (I was passed in my cart going 21mph the other day by an e-bike.) Anyway, I feel the best would be some courtesy on everyone's part. Keep you dogs on a short leash, walk on one side (not down the middle), use only one earbud for you music/phone, and always announce when you approach someone from behind. I personally like an announcement when people are passing on the left/right as I do not always hear the bell.

Joeint 06-14-2023 07:36 AM

Bike riders can do whatever they want, walking paths, roads, highways it doesn't matter all others must clear out of their way!!!

n8xwb 06-14-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2226124)
Walkers on a WALKING trail will walk on the right side of the road. They ARE the traffic, they are facing exactly the direction they should be facing, on a walking trail.

Just what "walking trails" are we addressing?

I am not familiar with said trails south if 466a. The one "walking" trail I know of -- beginning near Lake Miona Rec center is not dog friendly.

Seems to me bicycles should not be on "walking" trails.

dhdallas 06-14-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldengirl22 (Post 2226098)
Hi there, I am all about sharing the walking trails. But I was seriously startled this morning while walking my dog when a bike came up behind me. He blew past me, very close to me, and I couldn't help but think, what if I had moved over just a little bit, I would have walked right into his path, and we both would have been hurt.

Would it not be a good idea for a person coming up behind a walker to ring their bell? And if they don't have one on their bike, get one?

Just curious if other walkers have had this experience.

I apologize for the jerk who did not warn you. There is always that one person who ruins it for the rest of us. I always slow down, ring my bell or shout a warning. I might add that many walkers have ear buds or headphones on so they never hear my warnings. If you are wearing ear phones, I suggest always walking on the left side facing traffic.


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