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billethkid 06-26-2023 03:29 PM

When one no longer wants/needs their pool
 
We are frogs and plan to stay in this home......which has a pool.
While it is probably a long way off (we hope) there will come a time when we will have no use for the pool.

One option is to just maintain it for it's visual benefits and beauty.

There must be various ways to fill it and re-purpose the space....which we also would not need...there are some benefits to no longer having to maintain a pool.

I know there is a science to how to fill the pool and use as "garden" space....trees/flowers/etc....walkway/benches/etc.

Has anybody actually done this?

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Two Bills 06-26-2023 03:44 PM

Clean out Chlorine, and turn it into a pond and keep Koi Carp.
Watch them grow, and appreciate in value.
Better growth than Vanguard Mid-Cap Growth Index! :icon_wink:

shut the front door 06-26-2023 04:28 PM

Given that in TV, it costs over 60k to put in a nice pool, you'd be better off paying the maintenance and leaving it be. Your house will sell for a lot more given the price of pools, and nobody is going to pay more for a koi pond. Just because you think you might not use it someday, doesn't mean that will happen. Why spend money to lower the value of your house?

CoachKandSportsguy 06-26-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2229838)
Given that in TV, it costs over 60k to put in a nice pool, you'd be better off paying the maintenance and leaving it be. Your house will sell for a lot more given the price of pools, and nobody is going to pay more for a koi pond. Just because you think you might not use it someday, doesn't mean that will happen. Why spend money to lower the value of your house?

Fact check: true

I second the response

BrianL99 06-26-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2229831)
We are frogs and plan to stay in this home......which has a pool.
While it is probably a long way off (we hope) there will come a time when we will have no use for the pool.

One option is to just maintain it for it's visual benefits and beauty.

There must be various ways to fill it and re-purpose the space....which we also would not need...there are some benefits to no longer having to maintain a pool.

I know there is a science to how to fill the pool and use as "garden" space....trees/flowers/etc....walkway/benches/etc.

Has anybody actually done this?

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The best you can hope for, is your pool increases the value of your home by about 6%. That's for a fairly new pool, with minimal maintenance and updating needs.

The added value of pools has been decreasing for years, even in FL. Small, personal "spa/pools" are in style, large pools are not.

TV attracts notoriously unsophisticated buyers, so it might be a few years before the local market catches up with the regional market, but it won't be long before pools will be the worst home improvement investment you could possible make ... it's close already.

I've had 2 homes in Florida with pools. I was within a few days of filling in one of the pools, when I sold the house. The other house, I wished I filled in the pool. They both cost me a small fortune in maintenance, chasing leaks, fixing pumps, heaters, etc. It never ends with a pool.

Normal 06-26-2023 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2229838)
Given that in TV, it costs over 60k to put in a nice pool, you'd be better off paying the maintenance and leaving it be. Your house will sell for a lot more given the price of pools, and nobody is going to pay more for a koi pond. Just because you think you might not use it someday, doesn't mean that will happen. Why spend money to lower the value of your house?

Try 140k with bird cage, irrigation etc. Some are now running 170k.

BrianL99 06-26-2023 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2229860)
Try 140k with bird cage, irrigation etc. Some are now running 170k.


Probably about right. You;'ll probably get $25K-$30K of your investment back, when you sell the house.

asianthree 06-26-2023 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2229838)
Given that in TV, it costs over 60k to put in a nice pool, you'd be better off paying the maintenance and leaving it be. Your house will sell for a lot more given the price of pools, and nobody is going to pay more for a koi pond. Just because you think you might not use it someday, doesn't mean that will happen. Why spend money to lower the value of your house?

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2229860)
Try 140k with bird cage, irrigation etc. Some are now running 170k.

Normal is on the correct side for 12x20 base pool with nothing fancy starts at $140,000… if you want water feature and have a big birdcage $180,000 and a 2 year wait with T&D

tophcfa 06-26-2023 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2229868)
Normal is on the correct side for 12x20 base pool with nothing fancy starts at $140,000… if you want water feature and have a big birdcage $180,000 and a 2 year wait with T&D

Dam, that’s serious poolflation. T&D built ours 6 years ago after a 6 month wait. A 12 x 24 foot salt water pool with waterfalls, led lights, solar heat and a heat pump, a pool cover that rolls up inside the pool deck, an auto leveling water system, a Bluetooth remote control system, a very large birdcage with two doors, a hose spigot and two electrical outlets, and more, all for $62K. The job was turnkey including new sod and irrigation where necessary. The price you quoted above for a basic pool and birdcage is what we paid for our home 8 years ago. Glad we bought and built when we did!

villagetinker 06-26-2023 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2229831)
We are frogs and plan to stay in this home......which has a pool.
While it is probably a long way off (we hope) there will come a time when we will have no use for the pool.

One option is to just maintain it for it's visual benefits and beauty.

There must be various ways to fill it and re-purpose the space....which we also would not need...there are some benefits to no longer having to maintain a pool.

I know there is a science to how to fill the pool and use as "garden" space....trees/flowers/etc....walkway/benches/etc.

Has anybody actually done this?

You might want to check with some of the local pool companies to see if there is a way to place the pool in 'hibernation' or something similar, that would maintain the integrity of the pool (for future use) and limit the amount of maintenance.
If you find a suitable solution (I would NOT completely empty the pool), you may be able to find a suitable cover ($$$$) that would give you additional space to use, but i am certain this will not be cheap.
Finally, you might advertise your home stating that you are looking for a SWAP for a similar house with no pool.
Hope this helps, good luck with your problem.

HoosierPa 06-27-2023 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2229852)
The best you can hope for, is your pool increases the value of your home by about 6%. That's for a fairly new pool, with minimal maintenance and updating needs.

The added value of pools has been decreasing for years, even in FL. Small, personal "spa/pools" are in style, large pools are not.

TV attracts notoriously unsophisticated buyers, so it might be a few years before the local market catches up with the regional market, but it won't be long before pools will be the worst home improvement investment you could possible make ... it's close already.

I've had 2 homes in Florida with pools. I was within a few days of filling in one of the pools, when I sold the house. The other house, I wished I filled in the pool. They both cost me a small fortune in maintenance, chasing leaks, fixing pumps, heaters, etc. It never ends with a pool.

Covid changed everything. Pools are very desirable now. We put in a pool 3 years ago for 65k and sold the house 2 years later and made a small fortune due to the pool.

TheWarriors 06-27-2023 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2229852)
The best you can hope for, is your pool increases the value of your home by about 6%. That's for a fairly new pool, with minimal maintenance and updating needs.

The added value of pools has been decreasing for years, even in FL. Small, personal "spa/pools" are in style, large pools are not.

TV attracts notoriously unsophisticated buyers, so it might be a few years before the local market catches up with the regional market, but it won't be long before pools will be the worst home improvement investment you could possible make ... it's close already.

I've had 2 homes in Florida with pools. I was within a few days of filling in one of the pools, when I sold the house. The other house, I wished I filled in the pool. They both cost me a small fortune in maintenance, chasing leaks, fixing pumps, heaters, etc. It never ends with a pool.


I don’t think most people have your point of view on pools here in Florida.

Sandy and Ed 06-27-2023 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2229879)
You might want to check with some of the local pool companies to see if there is a way to place the pool in 'hibernation' or something similar, that would maintain the integrity of the pool (for future use) and limit the amount of maintenance.
If you find a suitable solution (I would NOT completely empty the pool), you may be able to find a suitable cover ($$$$) that would give you additional space to use, but i am certain this will not be cheap.
Finally, you might advertise your home stating that you are looking for a SWAP for a similar house with no pool.
Hope this helps, good luck with your problem.

Novel AND excellent idea!! Someone wants to install a pool for their nice house. Another wants to fill in a pool at their equally nice house. Probably going to be hard to find comparable houses (locations, style, etc) agreeable to both but, hey, talk about a win-win.

drbmd03 06-27-2023 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2229838)
Given that in TV, it costs over 60k to put in a nice pool, you'd be better off paying the maintenance and leaving it be. Your house will sell for a lot more given the price of pools, and nobody is going to pay more for a koi pond. Just because you think you might not use it someday, doesn't mean that will happen. Why spend money to lower the value of your house?

New pools in the south end of the villages are running over 130 K

coconutmama 06-27-2023 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2229876)
Dam, that’s serious poolflation. T&D built ours 6 years ago after a 6 month wait. A 12 x 24 foot salt water pool with waterfalls, led lights, solar heat and a heat pump, a pool cover that rolls up inside the pool deck, an auto leveling water system, a Bluetooth remote control system, a very large birdcage with two doors, a hose spigot and two electrical outlets, and more, all for $62K. The job was turnkey including new sod and irrigation where necessary. The price you quoted above for a basic pool and birdcage is what we paid for our home 8 years ago. Glad we bought and built when we did!

Amen to that! We built about 6 years ago. Had pool, slightly larger than that but no solar, built for 55k. From what I have noticed, a pool increases the value by $150-$200k. (Was 200k but I think prices have modulated slightly & probably temporarily)


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