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Pballer 06-30-2023 12:35 PM

Florida Oks use of radioactive waste to pave roads
 
DeSantis signs bill allowing new roads to be built with mining waste linked to cancer | The Hill

What will they think of next?

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-30-2023 12:36 PM

Of course the contractor who "wins" the bid to do the job will be charging extra for the hazardous duty work. All courtesy of the taxpayers.

golfing eagles 06-30-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2230825)

But if the roads glow in the dark, it will be quite a savings on electricity for street lights :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Pairadocs 06-30-2023 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2230825)

Personally I try to follow the Paul Harvey method of examination BEFORE I come to a final conclusion. The headline states the Governor signs..... true, but, what does that really mean ? The bill was put before him by "we the people" through making our desires KNOWN to our elected representatives.... the process in a democratic republic. A governor, a president, can't control the process. That's point #1. Point #2 would be, has this "hazardous" risk been evaluated and found to be as low a level as, for instance, the airport and courthouse security we pass through daily ? The cell phone and microwave radiation we keep in our house or pocket 365 days a year ? The low dose radiation we get from our granite counter tops that is a natural occurrence ? This is what is upsetting about "media", headlines, and even posts of social chat sites like this: is this post meant to ALARM other villagers, without giving factual support to the supposition that this is a significant happening ? Does anyone know if the actual crushed rock used NOW in highway construction contains none of the natural radiation like tiles, granite counter tops, flag stone patios, etc. do ? If I knew all the answers and percentages for all of these things, I'd be better prepared to react to this post... and perhaps, be angry at our state legislators who did this. But, there is a LOT, I am sure, of the "rest of the story", so for now, not going to let my emotions (which are naturally cautious about these things) overcome my ability to analyze based on facts. At present, I am more concerned that our way of disposing of everything here in the Villages and surrounding area, by burning everything from plastics to house hold batteries, to who knows what else (don't think each bag is inspected before being put into the giant incinerator) ? Not sure "scrubbers" actually remove all carcinogens ? Another thought that came to mind, is the hazardous material approved for paving more, or less, dangerous than the utility meters attached to our homes, and the fire and carbon monoxide alarms in nearly every room ? Again, that's rhetorical, don't know all the answers to those questions. But, how many people will read that headline and think, "oh that horrible horrible evil man (a governor of any state), when it's actually "we the people" whose representatives proposed this because it was the majority of the people who want this ! Any governor of any state could be personally violently opposed to this, or any other bill, but thankfully that is not how our form was government works !

golfing eagles 06-30-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2230836)
Personally I try to follow the Paul Harvey method of examination BEFORE I come to a final conclusion. The headline states the Governor signs..... true, but, what does that really mean ? The bill was put before him by "we the people" through making our desires KNOWN to our elected representatives.... the process in a democratic republic. A governor, a president, can't control the process. That's point #1. Point #2 would be, has this "hazardous" risk been evaluated and found to be as low a level as, for instance, the airport and courthouse security we pass through daily ? The cell phone and microwave radiation we keep in our house or pocket 365 days a year ? The low dose radiation we get from our granite counter tops that is a natural occurrence ? This is what is upsetting about "media", headlines, and even posts of social chat sites like this: is this post meant to ALARM other villagers, without giving factual support to the supposition that this is a significant happening ? Does anyone know if the actual crushed rock used NOW in highway construction contains none of the natural radiation like tiles, granite counter tops, flag stone patios, etc. do ? If I knew all the answers and percentages for all of these things, I'd be better prepared to react to this post... and perhaps, be angry at our state legislators who did this. But, there is a LOT, I am sure, of the "rest of the story", so for now, not going to let my emotions (which are naturally cautious about these things) overcome my ability to analyze based on facts. At present, I am more concerned that our way of disposing of everything here in the Villages and surrounding area, by burning everything from plastics to house hold batteries, to who knows what else (don't think each bag is inspected before being put into the giant incinerator) ? Not sure "scrubbers" actually remove all carcinogens ? Another thought that came to mind, is the hazardous material approved for paving more, or less, dangerous than the utility meters attached to our homes, and the fire and carbon monoxide alarms in nearly every room ? Again, that's rhetorical, don't know all the answers to those questions. But, how many people will read that headline and think, "oh that horrible horrible evil man (a governor of any state), when it's actually "we the people" whose representatives proposed this because it was the majority of the people who want this ! Any governor of any state could be personally violently opposed to this, or any other bill, but thankfully that is not how our form was government works !

Right on point! Ever notice how any law that a certain group opposes is automatically referred to in the media and by acolytes as "the chief executive's" as if he unilaterally wrote it, passed it and signed it, but those that the same group is in favor of is reported as "the will of the people"

tophcfa 06-30-2023 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2230834)
But if the roads glow in the dark, it will be quite a savings on electricity for street lights :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

And the EV owners are hoping the road will somehow charge their vehicles for free while driving.

dewilson58 06-30-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2230825)
What will they think of next?

Drinking urine...........oh wait, Astronauts are doing that.

Bogie Shooter 06-30-2023 02:36 PM

DeSantis, a 2024 GOP presidential candidate, hasn’t commented. Tampa-based fertilizer giant Mosaic, which pushed the legislation, is seeking federal approval to test phosphogypsum, which the Tampa Bay Times noted “could pave the way — literally — for phosphogypsum use in American roads.”


Follow the money…………….

Bill14564 06-30-2023 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2230859)
DeSantis, a 2024 GOP presidential candidate, hasn’t commented. Tampa-based fertilizer giant Mosaic, which pushed the legislation, is seeking federal approval to test phosphogypsum, which the Tampa Bay Times noted “could pave the way — literally — for phosphogypsum use in American roads.”


Follow the money…………….

But, but....

Didn't you read the end of post #4? It's "we the people" who wanted this. We voted for our representatives and they vote for what they know the majority of us want. The Gov simply went along with what he knew we wanted.

It would be interesting to see the science on this. Just how much radiation will be added to what we are already exposed to.

Keefelane66 06-30-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2230836)
Personally I try to follow the Paul Harvey method of examination BEFORE I come to a final conclusion. The headline states the Governor signs..... true, but, what does that really mean ? The bill was put before him by "we the people" through making our desires KNOWN to our elected representatives.... the process in a democratic republic. A governor, a president, can't control the process. That's point #1. Point #2 would be, has this "hazardous" risk been evaluated and found to be as low a level as, for instance, the airport and courthouse security we pass through daily ? The cell phone and microwave radiation we keep in our house or pocket 365 days a year ? The low dose radiation we get from our granite counter tops that is a natural occurrence ? This is what is upsetting about "media", headlines, and even posts of social chat sites like this: is this post meant to ALARM other villagers, without giving factual support to the supposition that this is a significant happening ? Does anyone know if the actual crushed rock used NOW in highway construction contains none of the natural radiation like tiles, granite counter tops, flag stone patios, etc. do ? If I knew all the answers and percentages for all of these things, I'd be better prepared to react to this post... and perhaps, be angry at our state legislators who did this. But, there is a LOT, I am sure, of the "rest of the story", so for now, not going to let my emotions (which are naturally cautious about these things) overcome my ability to analyze based on facts. At present, I am more concerned that our way of disposing of everything here in the Villages and surrounding area, by burning everything from plastics to house hold batteries, to who knows what else (don't think each bag is inspected before being put into the giant incinerator) ? Not sure "scrubbers" actually remove all carcinogens ? Another thought that came to mind, is the hazardous material approved for paving more, or less, dangerous than the utility meters attached to our homes, and the fire and carbon monoxide alarms in nearly every room ? Again, that's rhetorical, don't know all the answers to those questions. But, how many people will read that headline and think, "oh that horrible horrible evil man (a governor of any state), when it's actually "we the people" whose representatives proposed this because it was the majority of the people who want this ! Any governor of any state could be personally violently opposed to this, or any other bill, but thankfully that is not how our form was government works !

Not that easy “ The bill was put before him (legislature) by "we the people" through making our desires KNOWN to our elected representatives....”
The producer Mosaic lobbied the state legislature to incorporate an unsaleable waste product in a building material but I guess you can say corporations are people too.

Bogie Shooter 06-30-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2230862)
Not that easy “ The bill was put before him (legislature) by "we the people" through making our desires KNOWN to our elected representatives....”
The producer Mosaic lobbied the state legislature to incorporate an unsaleable waste product in a building material but I guess you can say corporations are people too.

To the tune of providing a $25,000 fund raiser for those who supported the bill, we the people…balderdash!

golfing eagles 06-30-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2230866)
To the tune of providing a $25,000 fund raiser for those who supported the bill, we the people…balderdash!

And he's the only person running fundraisers??????

Dotneko 06-30-2023 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2230836)
Personally I try to follow the Paul Harvey method of examination BEFORE I come to a final conclusion. The headline states the Governor signs..... true, but, what does that really mean ? The bill was put before him by "we the people" through making our desires KNOWN to our elected representatives.... the process in a democratic republic. A governor, a president, can't control the process. That's point #1. Point #2 would be, has this "hazardous" risk been evaluated and found to be as low a level as, for instance, the airport and courthouse security we pass through daily ? The cell phone and microwave radiation we keep in our house or pocket 365 days a year ? The low dose radiation we get from our granite counter tops that is a natural occurrence ? This is what is upsetting about "media", headlines, and even posts of social chat sites like this: is this post meant to ALARM other villagers, without giving factual support to the supposition that this is a significant happening ? Does anyone know if the actual crushed rock used NOW in highway construction contains none of the natural radiation like tiles, granite counter tops, flag stone patios, etc. do ? If I knew all the answers and percentages for all of these things, I'd be better prepared to react to this post... and perhaps, be angry at our state legislators who did this. But, there is a LOT, I am sure, of the "rest of the story", so for now, not going to let my emotions (which are naturally cautious about these things) overcome my ability to analyze based on facts. At present, I am more concerned that our way of disposing of everything here in the Villages and surrounding area, by burning everything from plastics to house hold batteries, to who knows what else (don't think each bag is inspected before being put into the giant incinerator) ? Not sure "scrubbers" actually remove all carcinogens ? Another thought that came to mind, is the hazardous material approved for paving more, or less, dangerous than the utility meters attached to our homes, and the fire and carbon monoxide alarms in nearly every room ? Again, that's rhetorical, don't know all the answers to those questions. But, how many people will read that headline and think, "oh that horrible horrible evil man (a governor of any state), when it's actually "we the people" whose representatives proposed this because it was the majority of the people who want this ! Any governor of any state could be personally violently opposed to this, or any other bill, but thankfully that is not how our form was government works !

Never let pesky facts get in the way of bashing the governor. Come on man!

Bogie Shooter 06-30-2023 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2230867)
And he's the only person running fundraisers??????

Oh, are there more paying for the bills passage?

Bogie Shooter 06-30-2023 04:22 PM

I’m guessing this thread is on borrowed time.:jester:


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