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djlnc 08-08-2023 03:39 PM

We need a new roundabout thread. Burnsed Rec Center
 
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When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

Two Bills 08-08-2023 04:01 PM

Personally I would just exit into the left lane of Denskin, then enter the slip road.
No one should be in front of you, and you will impede no one behind.

golfing eagles 08-08-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2243010)
Personally I would just exit into the left lane of Denskin, then enter the slip road.
No one should be in front of you, and you will impede no one behind.

Absolutely. If you have entered the RB correctly and are attentive to other fools in the RB , you may cross the dotted white line right at the exit to get into the turn lane for the Rec center, per the photograph.

JMintzer 08-08-2023 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2243010)
Personally I would just exit into the left lane of Denskin, then enter the slip road.
No one should be in front of you, and you will impede no one behind.

Yup. Exit from the outside lane on Morse, and there is initially a dashed lane separator. It's easy to cross into the left lane on Deskin (of course you have to make sure there is no traffic coming from your left)...

P.S. I fully expect another 10 pages on the pros/cons of roundabouts, with plenty of the requisite incorrect information and someone saying you NEVER go straight thru a roundabout, that EVERYTHING is a left turn...

Bogie Shooter 08-08-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2243013)
Yup. Exit from the outside lane on Morse, and there is initially a dashed lane separator. It's easy to cross into the left lane on Deskin (of course you have to make sure there is no traffic coming from your left)...

P.S. I full expect another 10 pages on the pros/cons of roundabouts, with plenty of the requisite incorrect information and someone saying you NEVER go straight thru a roundabout, that EVERYTHING is a left turn...

Most of the previous posts, on other threads, will be “cut & paste” to this one.🤦
10 page estimate may be low……

Miboater 08-08-2023 05:28 PM

I agree with staying in the outside lane for the right turn and try to get into the left lane on Deskin. If you can't get over in time you can use the turnaround just before the Osceola gate.

golfing eagles 08-08-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Miboater (Post 2243044)
I agree with staying in the outside lane for the right turn and try to get into the left lane on Deskin. If you can't get over in time you can use the turnaround just before the Osceola gate.

Shouldn't ever be necessary. There shouldn't be anyone there to block you. If there is, then either someone entered with you in the inside lane then made the lame-brained turn into the first exit, OR, you made the error of entering the RB when someone was coming around in the inside lane and exiting with you.

Marathon Man 08-08-2023 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243045)
Shouldn't ever be necessary. There shouldn't be anyone there to block you. If there is, then either someone entered with you in the inside lane then made the lame-brained turn into the first exit, OR, you made the error of entering the RB when someone was coming around in the inside lane and exiting with you.

Agree with this. If you know that you will be making the left turn into the rec center, then simply make sure that there is no one in the inside lane before you enter the roundabout, then exit into the left lane.

djlnc 08-08-2023 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2243053)
Agree with this. If you know that you will be making the left turn into the rec center, then simply make sure that there is no one in the inside lane before you enter the roundabout, then exit into the left lane.

Then, couldn't the case be made that the dashed line should extend into Deskin Lane since one is not supposed to cross a solid line?

PersonOfInterest 08-09-2023 04:24 AM

If crossing the solid line bothers you, pass the left turn lane, go to the end of the block or first opportunity to make a U turn and come back up the opposite side of the street allowing you to make a right turn into the rec center.

There is a reasonable maneuver that will get you across to the left turn lane by only crossing dotted lines.

mikeycereal 08-09-2023 06:01 AM

Like any time entering a roundabout you stop and then go depending on traffic in the roundabout coming through on your left. An easy move when there is no one. Being patient and waiting for traffic in the roundabout is a common rule. Once clear, you can make that early cut into the far left. Like always I would watch other cars to see what they may do, and go as soon as it is determined that they're turning right before continuing in the RAB.

We had a similar but tighter maneuver in Hawaii where I lived. No roundabout, but it involved turning right and crossing a short solid line through 1 lane to get into the left turn lane. It was only about a 2-car length area to work with, and 2 traffic lights to get through. Once you knew about the maneuver you could proceed when clear with no problem. But it was always questionable as far as technical legality. This Morse one isn't because of the early dotted line.

Two Bills 08-09-2023 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2243054)
Then, couldn't the case be made that the dashed line should extend into Deskin Lane since one is not supposed to cross a solid line?

No. You are crossing a hatched line exiting roundabout, and entering the left lane of Deskin.
Seems a perfectly legal maneuver to me.

danglanzsr 08-09-2023 06:39 AM

Single white lines can be crossed.
 
Single white lines can be crossed with caution. Only double white and yellow lines cannot be crossed. Please see the manual for uniform traffic control devices, MUTCD at:
https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/services/...2090/index.htm

Maker 08-09-2023 06:41 AM

There will be many different answers. Each is correct from one point of view.
Each will cause accidents when considering traffic entering from each road feeding and exiting the RAB.
Each will cause accidents when exiting immediately, or going around.
The diagrams will be referenced that do not account for traffic from all directions.
People will fight over who's opinion is right.

The best things I have heard is to never have another car next to you. That leaves space for you to use when they do something you never expect.

midiwiz 08-09-2023 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2242994)
When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

You are correct I have no idea where these other goofs, changes that from inside to outside lanes..... if you are coming fromthe north is the way I take your example. Yes inside lane, if you were to use the outside lane then you are what everyone complains about.... just sayin....


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