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Mass288 09-10-2023 08:48 AM

Birdcage company??
 
HI all..our build starts in a week or two would anyone have any trusting cage companies to add a bird cage addition for a 6 person hot tub and grill. size 15×15 ish. Right after the home completion. Thanks in advance

villagetinker 09-10-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mass288 (Post 2255103)
HI all..our build starts in a week or two would anyone have any trusting cage companies to add a bird cage addition for a 6 person hot tub and grill. size 15×15 ish. Right after the home completion. Thanks in advance

The company that did ours no longer exists as far as I know, too bad because they did a really good job. I have delt with A+ screening to replace damaged screens (IAN) and they were very good and price was in line with 2 or 3 other quotes. From the discussions with the workers I understand they do enclosures also, so I would give them a call. I also delt with White Aluminum (441 in Leesburg) for supplies to enclose the front patio, this was a DIY project, and they were great to deal with.

Some items to consider on your project:
1. You will need ARC approval for the birdcage as well as 2 permits, one spa permit, and one electrical permit.
2. Be very careful of a spa company doing a turnkey installation, I did this and got burnt when they did NOT get the required permits (long story), so if you go this route make sure you actually see the permits on site for display.
3. Birdcages seem to have lots of problems draining correctly after a heavy rain even with drains installed in the concrete as these tend to clog over time. I am going to retrofit our bird cage with thin aluminum strips to raise the bottom bar about 1/16 inch to provide additional drainage.
4. The spa disconnect switch needs to be visible to the technician working on the spa.
5. The birdcage and spa must be bonded together, and an additional ground rod maybe required.
6. Any glass within 5 feet(?) of the spa must be tempered glass.
7. Any electrical outlets (120 vac, cable, telephone, etc) must be removed, deenergized, cover plated.
8. The ARC approval will require a set of plans for the birdcage, so IMHO, I would go for approval of the pad initially, and then for the birdcage so the contractor can submit the plans.
9. Every birdcage I have seen uses steel screws into the aluminum frame, resulting in the screws eventually rusting, so if you get a white frame expect to see the rust, if you get a bronze frame the rust will be much less visible.
10. As for the grill, I would save a lot of money and get a Weber grill of the size you want and not a built in grill.

Feel free to send me a private message with your phone number if you would like to discuss further.

Altavia 09-10-2023 11:00 AM

All Around Aluminum for the bird cage.

If you have a view lot, ask about panoramic configuration.

dhelfer6 09-10-2023 12:03 PM

We used CVS and were very pleased with our bird cage.

Altavia 09-10-2023 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2255124)
The company that did ours no longer exists as far as I know, too bad because they did a really good job. I have delt with A+ screening to replace damaged screens (IAN) and they were very good and price was in line with 2 or 3 other quotes. From the discussions with the workers I understand they do enclosures also, so I would give them a call. I also delt with White Aluminum (441 in Leesburg) for supplies to enclose the front patio, this was a DIY project, and they were great to deal with.

Some items to consider on your project:
1. You will need ARC approval for the birdcage as well as 2 permits, one spa permit, and one electrical permit.
2. Be very careful of a spa company doing a turnkey installation, I did this and got burnt when they did NOT get the required permits (long story), so if you go this route make sure you actually see the permits on site for display.
3. Birdcages seem to have lots of problems draining correctly after a heavy rain even with drains installed in the concrete as these tend to clog over time. I am going to retrofit our bird cage with thin aluminum strips to raise the bottom bar about 1/16 inch to provide additional drainage.
4. The spa disconnect switch needs to be visible to the technician working on the spa.
5. The birdcage and spa must be bonded together, and an additional ground rod maybe required.
6. Any glass within 5 feet(?) of the spa must be tempered glass.
7. Any electrical outlets (120 vac, cable, telephone, etc) must be removed, deenergized, cover plated.
8. The ARC approval will require a set of plans for the birdcage, so IMHO, I would go for approval of the pad initially, and then for the birdcage so the contractor can submit the plans.
9. Every birdcage I have seen uses steel screws into the aluminum frame, resulting in the screws eventually rusting, so if you get a white frame expect to see the rust, if you get a bronze frame the rust will be much less visible.
10. As for the grill, I would save a lot of money and get a Weber grill of the size you want and not a built in grill.

Feel free to send me a private message with your phone number if you would like to discuss further.

Very good guidance.

Adding:

A) Irrigation lines can not be under concrete so will need to be rerouted around the pad.

B) Get multiple quotes for running power. Ask how/where they will run the wire. 220 will allow more powerfull pumps and faster warm up times.

C) Best to first select the SPA and carefully decide power location prior to pouring the pad.

D) Cleanest install is to the run power in conduit under the slab and come up under the SPA..

E) Add a surge suppressor at the SPA disconnect.

F) A BillyBib makes filling the SPA easy without letting in the critters.

https://www.billybib.com/index.htm

G) These screenroomd drains work great:

Screen Room Drains - One & Only Patented Screen Room Drain

Altavia 09-10-2023 03:04 PM

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Lisajean 09-11-2023 07:01 AM

We used LG Screen in Leesburg to add a birdcage to our new home in in May. The owner Laura and her crew did a great job.
LG Screen Repair LLC. - Screen Enclosure Company in Leesburg

skippy05 09-11-2023 07:03 AM

Do get permission from ARC. Don't get a real company who will pull permit and therefore added forever to compute you annual property taxes! Go on Facebook market place for your area and search on the terms screen room. I have done this 3 times with excellent results and quality and nothing extra added to my tax bill.

Paula 09-11-2023 07:06 AM

Hot tub
 
Do you really expect to have 6 people in a hot tub often? We put a 4 person in, and the only times we've had more than two people (us) is when our grandkids came. When you have friends over, they're not likely at all to go in the tub.

bhendricks772@gmail.com 09-11-2023 07:58 AM

Cvs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mass288 (Post 2255103)
HI all..our build starts in a week or two would anyone have any trusting cage companies to add a bird cage addition for a 6 person hot tub and grill. size 15×15 ish. Right after the home completion. Thanks in advance

We also used CVS. Great work and they took care of all the permitting and approvals.
Very satisfied.

Vermilion Villager 09-11-2023 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paula (Post 2255340)
Do you really expect to have 6 people in a hot tub often? We put a 4 person in, and the only times we've had more than two people (us) is when our grandkids came. When you have friends over, they're not likely at all to go in the tub.

OMG...just had a vision of 6 nakey nakey Villagers in a hot tub!!! :eek::22yikes::cryin2:

Safety Ranger 09-11-2023 09:40 AM

Quality Screen and Aluminum in Leesburg... did ours, great job great value

Pmgokey 09-11-2023 09:47 AM

The did my concrete to raise the slab to the height of my existing lanai, and then the birdcageafter my hot tub was set. Did an awesome job.

They were the middle of three close bids. Selected them because as an engineer they gave me the best comfort level with their answers to my questions.

Pmgokey 09-11-2023 09:48 AM

All great information

Carlsondm 09-11-2023 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paula (Post 2255340)
Do you really expect to have 6 people in a hot tub often? We put a 4 person in, and the only times we've had more than two people (us) is when our grandkids came. When you have friends over, they're not likely at all to go in the tub.

Sometimes you want special jet stations or just room to move around. We originally looked for a 2-3 person with a lounge. After considering the footprint with the cover, cover holder and steps, a 4-5 person square fit better in our smaller birdcage. Many things go into the tub decision.

If she gets a 12 person, I think we should have a grand opening party.


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