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CTKID 10-15-2023 10:20 AM

Will our Executive Courses get a course and slope rating in 2024?
 
Florida State Golf Association announced:

Starting in 2024, The World Handicap System™ has approved lowering the minimum length for a tee to be issued a Course Rating and Slope Rating to 1,500 yards for 18 holes or 750 yards for 9 holes.

This will allow our Executive Course rounds to be entered into the handicap system.

Anyone know if our Executive Courses will be rated? Thanks.

Hape2Bhr 10-15-2023 11:22 AM

If they do, I certainly hope they use more experienced course raters than those who flubbed the ratings on the championship courses.

BrianL99 10-15-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2265541)
If they do, I certainly hope they use more experienced course raters than those who flubbed the ratings on the championship courses.

What's wrong with the Ratings on the Championship courses?

& FSGA does the Ratings and the raters are usually very experienced.

Keefelane66 10-15-2023 11:51 AM

There just dumbing down the sport of golf!

Topspinmo 10-15-2023 11:57 AM

Want know why you rate/rank enter tournaments with no handicaps.

Hape2Bhr 10-15-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2265543)
What's wrong with the Ratings on the Championship courses?

& FSGA does the Ratings and the raters are usually very experienced.

They are far too low rated in difficulty. I usually play the white tees (sometimes blue). Were I to score 72 every round from the white tees, at virtually every course in TV, that would still equate to a 6 to 8 handicap. That is ridiculous. I 78 recently at Glenview equated to 11.6.

It one reason teams from TV who compete in tournaments with others from around the state tend to do very well. The handicaps here are bogus.

golfing eagles 10-15-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2265565)
They are far too low rated in difficulty. I usually play the white tees (sometimes blue). Were I to score 72 every round from the white tees, at virtually every course in TV, that would still equate to a 6 to 8 handicap. That is ridiculous. I 78 recently at Glenview equated to 11.6.

It one reason teams from TV who compete in tournaments with others from around the state tend to do very well. The handicaps here are bogus.

I'm forced to disagree. First of all, if you shot 72 from the whites, you'd probably be a 5 handicap based on our course ratings. I just finished playing Glenview 1/2 hour ago, and likewise shot 78---from the whites since I was playing with friends. The rating is 65.6 and the length is only 5599 so that looks about right.
Also, the WHS is based on a theoretical course roughly equivalent to our black tees or 7200 yds, so if you shoot 72's from there, you'll be a 0.

But back to the subject of this thread---rating courses of 750 yds----now that's BOGUS On the other had, all you need to carry is a 60 degree and a putter----or do they require you to carry more clubs on these "executive" courses?

dewilson58 10-15-2023 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2265541)
If they do, I certainly hope they use more experienced course raters than those who flubbed the ratings on the championship courses.

I kinda kno what U R saying.

From 10,000 feet, TV champion courses are very easy given their slopes.
Playing from the golds and blacks, I should not be scoring like I do..........it's fun, jus not accurate.
I've played many courses all over the USA and comparatively speaking.....TV is easy.
Maybe it's no rough, no trees, wide fairways, so flat....but jus not worthy of their slope numbers.

:posting:

Jayhawk 10-15-2023 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2265565)
They are far too low rated in difficulty. I usually play the white tees (sometimes blue). Were I to score 72 every round from the white tees, at virtually every course in TV, that would still equate to a 6 to 8 handicap. That is ridiculous. I 78 recently at Glenview equated to 11.6.

It one reason teams from TV who compete in tournaments with others from around the state tend to do very well. The handicaps here are bogus.

First World Problems.

:gc:

BrianL99 10-15-2023 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2265565)
They are far too low rated in difficulty. I usually play the white tees (sometimes blue). Were I to score 72 every round from the white tees, at virtually every course in TV, that would still equate to a 6 to 8 handicap. That is ridiculous. I 78 recently at Glenview equated to 11.6.

There's nothing wrong with the Course Ratings. If you're playing the White Tees, you're playing from about 5500 yards on most TV courses. That's going to give you a rating around 65 and with the width of TV Fairways, the Slope is going to be right around "standard" (113).

Go play TDS from the Golds and shoot 78, see that that gives you!

I can shoot 73-75 from the Blues in TV, most every day. I get home to a real golf course, I'm lucky if break 80 once in a while.

GizmoWhiskers 10-16-2023 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2265556)
There just dumbing down the sport of golf!

That falls in line with just about everything else "they" are dumbing down across the board in ___(fill in the blank)___

Hey, it will free up some space for more houses in T V no?? Win win.

BrianConley 10-16-2023 05:14 AM

If you want to play “real” golf, you need to play from the golds. The blues are too easy, most if not all are under 6200 yards. I wish they had a combo, blue/golds , white/blues like many courses in Florida do. Blue/gold at 6350 yards would be perfect.

Burnie 10-16-2023 08:22 AM

I didn't start to play golf until I moved here in 2004 when I was 69 years old. I'm now 88 years old and play only occasionally. The executive courses are for people like me, just to have fun. Lately my playing partner and I (brother-in-law) don't even keep score, we just enjoy being out and being alive, so official handicaps mean nothing to us.

TomSpasm 10-16-2023 09:17 AM

Based on my experiences with going outside the bubble with Villages handicaps, they don't hold up in the outside world. If you go to courses like Mission Inn, Black Bear, or CC of Mount Dora, you are not going to score like you can here.

With regard to the complaint that shooting par from the white tees still makes you an 8 handicap, that's because of the lack of length. There has to be a way to differentiate a guy who shoots 72 from 5600 yards from one who shoots 72 from 7000 yards.

Full Disclosure, I'm a 9.4 handicap index, historically play from the blues but they're getting too long for me to have fun, playing more whites now.

Wilson02852 10-16-2023 09:46 AM

It's wonderful to know TV is full of low handicap golfers.

In the real world of TV golf most players are social golfers and don't give a crap about handicap. Get over yourself and just enjoy the game. No one is going to see you in the final pairing on Sunday.


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