Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2269065)

Not sure if public funds should be spent on a monument or not.........sounds like $6mil went to One Pulse Foundation (OPF) & $2mil to purchase the Pulse site.

What I find interesting is the millions of dollars of compensation went to OPF officers over the years and now OPF decided not the build a monument.

& no one is screaming.

Their Form 990 is public information disclosing the compensation.

:22yikes::22yikes:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2269074)

It is funds probably from Orlando area taxpayers.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2269065)

Not sure if public funds should be spent on a monument or not.........sounds like $6mil went to One Pulse Foundation (OPF) & $2mil to purchase the Pulse site.

What I find interesting is the millions of dollars of compensation went to OPF officers over the years and now OPF decided not the build a monument.

& no one is screaming.

Their Form 990 is public information disclosing the compensation.

:22yikes::22yikes:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2269157)

I am not amazed that people attack something being done when the victims were not just like you. Any problem with public dollars spent at the World Trade Center honoring the victims who just happened to be at the wrong place of work that morning?



How about the Memorial at the Oklahoma City site where a domestic terrorist hoping to inspire the overthrow of the government killed people who just were in the wrong place.

Lots of Federal, State and Local dollars spent at those sites, and so many more. No complaints from you about that? Oh, most of those victims weren't gay.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2269160)

I'd say the same thing about all those tragedies. Remember the victims. Memorialize them. But the term "honor" should be reserved for those that did something proactive to help. Honor the firefighters that laid down their lives that day to help others and remember those that simply showed up for work that day. I realize it is a semantic difference, but also an important one. And I say this having lost 2 high school classmates that day, as well as having had my son in the air when all flights were grounded.

As far as public funds go, I stated I'm undecided. Either way I don't think it's a big issue. As far as Pulse goes, I didn't see anyone post that the clientele was gay, maybe I missed that, or maybe somebody jumps to conclusions.

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2269157)

I am not amazed that people attack something being done when the victims were not just like you. Any problem with public dollars spent at the World Trade Center honoring the victims who just happened to be at the wrong place of work that morning?



How about the Memorial at the Oklahoma City site where a domestic terrorist hoping to inspire the overthrow of the government killed people who just were in the wrong place.

Lots of Federal, State and Local dollars spent at those sites, and so many more. No complaints from you about that? Oh, most of those victims weren't gay.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2269167)

Way off base with this comment. The problem that was pointed out was that a lot of money was collected and a lot of money was spent but there is no monument or museum to show for it.

The city will own two pieces of property: the land where the museum was to be built and the building where the shooting occurred.

The owner of the nightclub will have $2M if she sells the property plus over half a million in salary from her time with the OPF.

The families of the victims have plans and promises but no memorial.

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2269179)

Looks to me as if the owners got their 2 million, it closed yesterday.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2269181)

Probably right. I couldn't figure out if the sale had actually closed yesterday or if the city had approved the $2M yesterday.

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2269205)

Big time bull being shoveled here. The complaint in the OP is very clear. Read it, the first sentence



and reply



then




then I point out nobody here complained about public funding of other memorials, you have the audacity to object. The OP and others mentioned an issue with whether it has or has not been built, but his observation very clearly is that public funding was provided.

The larger project has for now failed as the land owner did not sell the property to the city and instead wanted to go forward with their own plans but ultimately were unable to raise enough private funding to build the hoped for museum. It is complicated.

What is not complicated is that public funding was provided as seed money for the project the completion of which required much larger infusion of private money. That didn't happen.

As for honor vs memorialize. Point made that memorialize is more specific, but use of the word honor is entirely appropriate

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2269160)

I'd say the same thing about all those tragedies. Remember the victims. Memorialize them. But the term "honor" should be reserved for those that did something proactive to help. Honor the firefighters that laid down their lives that day to help others and remember those that simply showed up for work that day. I realize it is a semantic difference, but also an important one. And I say this having lost 2 high school classmates that day, as well as having had my son in the air when all flights were grounded.