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Craig Vernon 01-07-2024 08:12 AM

Who is responsible for insuring all the amenities?
 
HOA's all over Florida are in big trouble due to rising insurance rates. Who is responsible for insuring all of TV Rec centers, Executive courses, Pools, Gaming courts, Golf cart paths in the event they are damaged by storms etc?

BrianL99 01-07-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2288666)
HOA's all over Florida are in big trouble due to rising insurance rates. Who is responsible for insuring all of TV Rec centers, Executive courses, Pools, Gaming courts, Golf cart paths in the event they are damaged by storms etc?

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retiredguy123 01-07-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2288667)

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Goldwingnut 01-07-2024 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2288666)
HOA's all over Florida are in big trouble due to rising insurance rates. Who is responsible for insuring all of TV Rec centers, Executive courses, Pools, Gaming courts, Golf cart paths in the event they are damaged by storms etc?

There are 3 different entities responsible for this, VCCDD, SLCDD, and the developer. North of 466 the VCCDD via the RAD is responsible. Between 466 and 44 the amenities are owned by the SLCDD so the responsibility falls to them via the SLAD. South of 44 the developer still owns the amenities so the are responsible.

kansasr 01-07-2024 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2288666)
HOA's all over Florida are in big trouble due to rising insurance rates. Who is responsible for insuring all of TV Rec centers, Executive courses, Pools, Gaming courts, Golf cart paths in the event they are damaged by storms etc?

That would depend upon who owns it....Village Center CDD, Sumter Landing CDD, The individual CDD's or the developer who still owns most of the amenity facilities south of 44.

Craig Vernon 01-07-2024 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2288669)
There are 3 different entities responsible for this, VCCDD, SLCDD, and the developer. North of 466 the VCCDD via the RAD is responsible. Between 466 and 44 the amenities are owned by the SLCDD so the responsibility falls to them via the SLAD. South of 44 the developer still owns the amenities so the are responsible.

So, is there any responsibility paid directly by the residents that could be raised, like required by HOA's? Also how does someone find out the balances held to secure the infrastructure?

VApeople 01-07-2024 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2288669)
There are 3 different entities responsible for this, VCCDD, SLCDD, and the developer. North of 466 the VCCDD via the RAD is responsible. Between 466 and 44 the amenities are owned by the SLCDD so the responsibility falls to them via the SLAD. South of 44 the developer still owns the amenities so the are responsible.

Aww, you're no fun.

We didn't want a clear, well informed answer. We wanted something to argue about until this thread, like all others, would deteriorate into complaints about dog poop and bad drivers going thru roundabouts.

Goldwingnut 01-07-2024 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2288673)
So, is there any responsibility paid directly by the residents that could be raised, like required by HOA's? Also how does someone find out the balances held to secure the infrastructure?

No, it can’t come back on the residents due to the structure of the deed restrictions, they are very specific on how amenity fees/rates can be raised. The residents have no ownership of the amenities only a contractual agreement with the owning entities as stated in the deed restrictions.

Budgets and financial statements for the areas north of 44 are available at districtgov.org under the PWAC & SLCDD for the 466-44 area and RAD & VCCDD for north of 44.
For the area south of 44 that information is not available as they are owned by a privately held company and they are not required to disclose the information.

Goldwingnut 01-07-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2288676)
Aww, you're no fun.

We didn't want a clear, well informed answer. We wanted something to argue about, until this thread, like all others, would deteriorate into complaints about dog poop and bad drivers going thru roundabouts.

Sorry to spoil the party.

Craig Vernon 01-07-2024 09:07 AM

Thanks..
 
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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2288679)
No, it can’t come back on the residents due to the structure of the deed restrictions, they are very specific on how amenity fees/rates can be raised. The residents have no ownership of the amenities only a contractual agreement with the owning entities as stated in the deed restrictions.

Budgets and financial statements for the areas north of 44 are available at districtgov.org under the PWAC & SLCDD for the 466-44 area and RAD & VCCDD for north of 44.
For the area south of 44 that information is not available as they are owned by a privately held company and they are not required to disclose the information.

Thanks Don you are the best! :bigbow:

PersonOfInterest 01-08-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2288666)
HOA's all over Florida are in big trouble due to rising insurance rates. Who is responsible for insuring all of TV Rec centers, Executive courses, Pools, Gaming courts, Golf cart paths in the event they are damaged by storms etc?

I would imagine as large and well funded as the Villages is, that they are self insured.

Dlbonivich 01-08-2024 08:06 AM

Some of the issues that the HOA’s are facing are related to the distance they are from the water. Another problem for some that you may be hearing about in the news is because of legislation that was passed that required engineering inspections on condo buildings 3 stories or higher within 3 miles of the water. Once the inspection is done the HOA budgets must be fully funded to address all repairs called in the report. This is a summary of what is expected. This has raised some issues for HOA ‘s where the repairs are more than the current value of the units.

NotGolfer 01-08-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2288666)
HOA's all over Florida are in big trouble due to rising insurance rates. Who is responsible for insuring all of TV Rec centers, Executive courses, Pools, Gaming courts, Golf cart paths in the event they are damaged by storms etc?

TV doesn't have HOA's...... GWN explained it very well IMO.

MidWestIA 01-08-2024 09:17 AM

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sallyg 01-08-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Vernon (Post 2288673)
So, is there any responsibility paid directly by the residents that could be raised, like required by HOA's? Also how does someone find out the balances held to secure the infrastructure?

It usually does, one way or another.


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