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Cliff Fr 03-30-2024 12:30 PM

Lifeline screening
 
Has anyone used the clogged artery screening offered by this company? If so were the results useful to you and did your primary doctor accept them?

Thanks in advance

retiredguy123 03-30-2024 12:49 PM

Personally, I would never undergo any medical screening that was not ordered or recommended by a medical doctor. How do you know that the results that are produced are not going to be misinterpreted or used by your doctor to practice defensive medicine to protect them from a possible malpractice lawsuit? If you need to be screened, your doctor can order it.

villagetinker 03-30-2024 02:26 PM

I agree with above, talk to your PCP first, many can do preliminary screens in their office to see if a detailed screen is necessary.

Cliff Fr 03-31-2024 09:30 AM

Last year I did talk to my pcp about the tests offered by the testing company. He ordered sonograms of the main arteries to the heart. My insurance would not pay for a sonogram of the carotid arteries. From what I've researched, often the first symptom of a blocked carotid artery is a stroke. If that is true my pcp would not know to order a sonogram. My cholesterol was a little high but now it's normal because of diet changes I made.

BobnBev 03-31-2024 10:23 AM

Your PCP should be listening with his stethascope to your carotid's with every visit. If he hears the loud swishing sound of the blood flow, you should be good to go.

Stu from NYC 03-31-2024 11:55 AM

Good to know

dhdallas 03-31-2024 09:25 PM

It is unnecessary and Lifeline makes money off fools and hypochondriacs.

ndf888 04-01-2024 07:14 AM

It looks like a legit company, and it’s true that many people with borderline cholesterol levels have clogged arteries and even heart attacks. If you have cholesterol levels around or over 200 or any other risk factors, I would see a cardiologist first. They can do some of these tests. Also, you can get a more extensive bloodwork test that includes Lipoprotein (a) and ApoB. You can ask your PCP to add these tests to your annual checkup. Or order them yourself from Quest or a more specialized company such as FunctionHealth: What'''s Included.

For a more detailed explanation, check this recent review article ScienceDirect

retiredguy123 04-01-2024 07:42 AM

If you have a screening test performed as a result of a doctor's order, you have already been screened as needing the test, based on accepted medical protocols. But, if you go to Lifeline Screening, the only screening that takes place is to determine if you have enough money to pay for the test. In that case, the test results can often be misinterpreted because the decision to have the test was not based on years of research data to determine who should and who should not be tested.

CoachKandSportsguy 04-01-2024 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2317428)
Last year I did talk to my pcp about the tests offered by the testing company. He ordered sonograms of the main arteries to the heart. My insurance would not pay for a sonogram of the carotid arteries. From what I've researched, often the first symptom of a blocked carotid artery is a stroke. If that is true my pcp would not know to order a sonogram. My cholesterol was a little high but now it's normal because of diet changes I made.

eh. . from cardiologists a better indication of heart attack potential is the calcium score from a calcium scan. I started with a cardiologist just for preventative heart attack protocols at 60, as my dad had heart attack at 60, my grandfather at 50.

My cholesterol was borderline, and my blood pressure has always been borderline.
Calcium scan came back extremely high! means that I have an elevated risk of a blood clot from plague breaking off and clogging up somewhere clear.

recommended cholesterol levels keep dropping. . drug company conspiracy? or better medical research on longevity?

I play soccer with the TV group, no symptoms, never had a symptom, even on the stress test monitor. But I have an elevated risk of a heart attack after the calcium scan, requested by an 70+ year old cardiologist. Old research docs are the best.

But i know people who are in the same place as I am with traditional blood work only and have had heart attacks.

My opinion, any risks factors, start seeing a cardiologist, as a PCPS are just generalists, and their only recommendations are drugs. . . my PCP recommends heart drug changes, and I constantly tell him i will go with the cardiologist recommendations.

Just my opinion, and I support the AED program as I know too many with heart attacks, including a ship captain i was with, and I had to take over and dock the ship as the chief mate, and got him an ambulance at the dock waiting for him.

Stu from NYC 04-01-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2317617)
eh. . from cardiologists a better indication of heart attack potential is the calcium score from a calcium scan. I started with a cardiologist just for preventative heart attack protocols at 60, as my dad had heart attack at 60, my grandfather at 50.

My cholesterol was borderline, and my blood pressure has always been borderline.
Calcium scan came back extremely high! means that I have an elevated risk of a blood clot from plague breaking off and clogging up somewhere clear.

recommended cholesterol levels keep dropping. . drug company conspiracy? or better medical research on longevity?

I play soccer with the TV group, no symptoms, never had a symptom, even on the stress test monitor. But I have an elevated risk of a heart attack after the calcium scan, requested by an 70+ year old cardiologist. Old research docs are the best.

But i know people who are in the same place as I am with traditional blood work only and have had heart attacks.

My opinion, any risks factors, start seeing a cardiologist, as a PCPS are just generalists, and their only recommendations are drugs. . . my PCP recommends heart drug changes, and I constantly tell him i will go with the cardiologist recommendations.

Just my opinion, and I support the AED program as I know too many with heart attacks, including a ship captain i was with, and I had to take over and dock the ship as the chief mate, and got him an ambulance at the dock waiting for him.

Very true.

We have a very good PCP and she orders tests as she thinks are necessary.

Albany 04-01-2024 08:31 AM

I too started with a calcium scan! Highly recommend.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2317617)
eh. . from cardiologists a better indication of heart attack potential is the calcium score from a calcium scan. I started with a cardiologist just for preventative heart attack protocols at 60, as my dad had heart attack at 60, my grandfather at 50.

My cholesterol was borderline, and my blood pressure has always been borderline.
Calcium scan came back extremely high! means that I have an elevated risk of a blood clot from plague breaking off and clogging up somewhere clear.

recommended cholesterol levels keep dropping. . drug company conspiracy? or better medical research on longevity?

I play soccer with the TV group, no symptoms, never had a symptom, even on the stress test monitor. But I have an elevated risk of a heart attack after the calcium scan, requested by an 70+ year old cardiologist. Old research docs are the best.

But i know people who are in the same place as I am with traditional blood work only and have had heart attacks.

My opinion, any risks factors, start seeing a cardiologist, as a PCPS are just generalists, and their only recommendations are drugs. . . my PCP recommends heart drug changes, and I constantly tell him i will go with the cardiologist recommendations.

Just my opinion, and I support the AED program as I know too many with heart attacks, including a ship captain i was with, and I had to take over and dock the ship as the chief mate, and got him an ambulance at the dock waiting for him.

My calcium score came back very high! My PCP shipped me off to a cardiologist immediately, and told me to take a statin starting that day. Subsequent stress tests, echos, etc. showed plaque in a coronary artery, and I'm grateful to the calcium scan for the heads up. I feel that both my PCP and cardiologist take good care of me, and I try to do my part.

ithos 04-01-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2317181)
Has anyone used the clogged artery screening offered by this company? If so were the results useful to you and did your primary doctor accept them?

Thanks in advance

I used a similar service from HealthFair about 12 years ago and I was very satisfied. The tests were much more affordable than going the conventional route. This screening would never have been covered by insurance.

Ignorance is not bliss. I personally think it is foolish to wait until you experience symptoms from cardiovascular diseases and cancer before you do any testing. Heart disease and stroke are the number one killer in the USA. The earlier you know the better. It is also good to have a baseline for comparison later on.

It also may be a good motivator for people who rarely exercise and eat poorly to improve their lifestyle.

Most doctors put much more emphasis on drugs and surgery than lifestyle changes probably because they know that their patients will not follow their advice. This is too bad because almost all cardiovascular disease are preventable. We know this because there have been epidemiology studies of populations that have almost zero heart attacks and cancer.

A calcium scan is also a good idea. It only costs around $120 and no doctors approval is needed.

And if you are going to disparage a business, ethically you should have some credible information to back it up.

Pennyt 04-01-2024 09:00 AM

I used to get them. When I asked my physician about them, he said it didn't hurt to have them, but it was unnecessary in his opinion as he listens to my arteries at visits. He said if there was an issue he would have heard it.

CoachKandSportsguy 04-01-2024 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Albany (Post 2317635)
My calcium score came back very high! My PCP shipped me off to a cardiologist immediately, and told me to take a statin starting that day. Subsequent stress tests, echos, etc. showed plaque in a coronary artery, and I'm grateful to the calcium scan for the heads up. I feel that both my PCP and cardiologist take good care of me, and I try to do my part.

I will send the paper work in to create a new Village's affinity group:
The high calcium score group!

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