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shaw8700@outlook.com 08-14-2024 06:25 PM

Which is more important?
 
My husband and I were having this discussion and I thought I would get your take. Which is more important the country someone is born in or the parents they’re born to?

scubawva 08-14-2024 07:11 PM

Flip a coin. Or not.
What’s important is how they are raised. That’s not always in the country in which they were born or the birth parents.
Military kids born around the world, many families have children born in multiple countries. Children are adopted, some from countries other than where they were born. Some are raised by no-count birth parents.
You guys have too much free time

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-14-2024 07:43 PM

I think it's a strange question. If you were born in another country to amazing parents, is parentage the important part? If you were born here to horrible parents, does being born in America matter even a little?

It's like asking "which is more important? Being able to communicate, or not walking around the city naked?"

I think ones upbringing is more important than either, since you don't need parents to raise you, and upbringing can be awesome no matter which country you're born in.

tedquick 08-14-2024 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2360189)
My husband and I were having this discussion and I thought I would get your take. Which is more important the country someone is born in or the parents they’re born to?


Parents. While the environment will have *some* effect on all children their parents are, by far the greater "influencers" in their lives.

biggamefish1 08-14-2024 08:11 PM

Hmmm
 
I see it as this question is irrelevant if either and or are honest, kind, and friendly people.

Rainger99 08-14-2024 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2360189)
My husband and I were having this discussion and I thought I would get your take. Which is more important the country someone is born in or the parents they’re born to?

Parents. If I were born in South Sudan (the poorest country in the world) to the wealthiest family in the country, I think I would do pretty well!

And if I were born in the USA to a family living in extreme poverty (no education and homeless) I think life would be much more difficult here than in South Sudan.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-14-2024 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2360213)
Parents. If I were born in South Sudan (the poorest country in the world) to the wealthiest family in the country, I think I would do pretty well!

And if I were born in the USA to a family living in extreme poverty (no education and homeless) I think life would be much more difficult here than in South Sudan.

And if you were born to wonderful parents who were killed before you turned 1, and you were raised by a family of cretins, how important would your parentage be then?

If you were born to LOUSY parents who went to jail before you turned 1, and were raised by the best people in the world, how important would your parentage be then?

Who spawned you is 100% irrelevant to importance when it comes to your existence as a human being. Who RAISED you is 100% pertinent, no matter where the raising occurred.

MightyDog 08-14-2024 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2360220)

Who spawned you is 100% irrelevant to importance when it comes to your existence as a human being. Who RAISED you is 100% pertinent, no matter where the raising occurred.

Concur to the very largest degree. But, it is worth mentioning that a person will have some inherent demeanor and outlook based on family DNA and historical behavioral patterns. If the person was put-up for adoption as a baby then, they may never be able to recognize those things but, they are a part of them.

However, those raising the child and how they do it are what matter most.

bruce213 08-15-2024 07:32 AM

Doesn't it depend on what goal your looking for.
1.You could have crappy parents, grow up to be a misogynistic pig and have a good life.
2. In the US you could gave crappy very poor parents, but there are ways to work hard, get an education and have a good life.
3. You could have great loving parents in a 3rd world nation and live a very hard life.

mbene 08-15-2024 09:08 AM

There is a documentary, Three Identical Strangers, about triplets separated at birth and placed into families with different socioeconomic lives. Interesting in how they were alike in some ways before they met.

ThirdOfFive 08-15-2024 09:34 AM

Vote the parents. Plural. One only has to look at the statistics relating to out-of-wedlock births where the female parent is the only game in town to recognize the importance of two-parent families. Of course there are exceptions (and of course those exceptions will be referenced here), but that doesn't change the facts. Kids do better when raised in a household with TWO parents.

Accidental1 08-16-2024 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2360394)
Vote the parents. Plural. One only has to look at the statistics relating to out-of-wedlock births where the female parent is the only game in town to recognize the importance of two-parent families. Of course there are exceptions (and of course those exceptions will be referenced here), but that doesn't change the facts. Kids do better when raised in a household with TWO parents.

From my personal experience, a single female parent would have been better. The second parent added no value.

Remembergoldenrule 08-16-2024 05:03 AM

Both. If you have great parents who instill great love and values in you, but live in country with no freedoms and your life is controlled by government your life will have very little chance to change from your parents. You will be given your future job and told how to enjoy your free time. If you step out of line you will be arrested. If you follow the rules you will exist,, but may be happy with your family love. If you have lousy parents, but live in country where you decide your opportunities then your hard work and outlook decides your outcome as far as happiness, future love, and success.
I personally think your religious beliefs make just an impact as family or country. This is why you see happiness in the poor of the poorest and unhappiness in the richest. There is big difference in experiencing happiness vs joy. Those people making biggest impacts positive or negative usually have strong belief religious system be it Mother Teresa or Osama bin Laden.

MikeN 08-16-2024 05:56 AM

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Andyb 08-16-2024 06:37 AM

Birth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2360189)
My husband and I were having this discussion and I thought I would get your take. Which is more important the country someone is born in or the parents they’re born to?

So, what point are you trying to make? Parents. I’ll just say, so that it is done legally, as far as the “country” part goes.


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