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AMB444 08-25-2024 12:13 PM

Looking for health care provider that understands holistic approach to care
 
Just recently moved to TV and looking for a health care provider.

I've had good luck in the past with DO's, physicians assistants and nurse practitioners.

I'm willing to drive up to an hour for appointments.

Any recommendations?

TIA

golfing eagles 08-25-2024 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2363937)
Just recently moved to TV and looking for a health care provider.

I've had good luck in the past with DO's, physicians assistants and nurse practitioners.

I'm willing to drive up to an hour for appointments.

Any recommendations?

TIA

Total waste of time and in some cases detrimental to your health. Find a real physician

AMB444 08-25-2024 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364012)
Total waste of time and in some cases detrimental to your health. Find a real physician

Thanks for the advice. My whole family has done well with this type of care. My parents, aunts, uncles have lived well into their 90's for the most part.

golfing eagles 08-25-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2364021)
Thanks for the advice. My whole family has done well with this type of care. My parents, aunts, uncles have lived well into their 90's for the most part.

That's wonderful and I wish the same for you. Of course, please realize that has everything to do with genetics and nothing to do with those snake oil salesmen.

AMB444 08-25-2024 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364032)
That's wonderful and I wish the same for you. Of course, please realize that has everything to do with genetics and nothing to do with those snake oil salesmen.

Not sure what a "snake oil salesman" is.

Physician's assistants, DO's and nurse practitioners are well studied, respected professionals. Is there something that makes you distrust their education?

Yes, someone's longevity does have a lot to do with their genetics. It also has a lot to do with life style, nutrition and how you take care of yourself. That's what holistic type care is geared towards. Taking care and responsibility for your own health.

golfing eagles 08-25-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2364034)
Not sure what a "snake oil salesman" is.

Physician's assistants, DO's and nurse practitioners are well studied, respected professionals. Is there something that makes you distrust their education?

Yes, someone's longevity does have a lot to do with their genetics. It also has a lot to do with life style, nutrition and how you take care of yourself. That's what holistic type care is geared towards. Taking care and responsibility for your own health.

PAs and NPs are fine, I’ve employed a bunch of them. DOs tend to have failed to gain admittance to a real medical school, but some are good. It’s the “holistic approach” that’s crap

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-25-2024 05:31 PM

There's the alt-med center: HealthCare Partners Family Medicine

The doctor there is an MD, not a DO, but they specialize in holistic and alternative medicine. They're on 441 across the street from the Villages/UF Spanish Plaines/Name_of_the_Month Hospital.

There's a DO office with Dr. Karl Mueller and Dr. Connie Mercer at the Orlando Health Medical Group, also on 441, across from the Plaza Grande strip-mall. They're in the same area as Tire Choice, just south of the golf cart bridge into the Historic Section.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-25-2024 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2364044)
PAs and NPs are fine, I’ve employed a bunch of them. DOs tend to have failed to gain admittance to a real medical school, but some are good. It’s the “holistic approach” that’s crap

You're incorrect about DOs. Harvard Medical School offers a Doctor of Osteopathy degree in their pre-med program. So does Yale University Medical School. Yale Hospital has DOs on staff.

You might not like the idea that the body's functions are all inter-related, and you might not have been taught that. But that doesn't make it untrue. I get that it makes no sense to treat headaches with a manicure, or fix a broken bone by exploring your relationship with your mom. But when it comes to general health, looking at the big picture can sometimes tell you more than checking specific lab results.

MightyDog 08-25-2024 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2364052)
You're incorrect about DOs. Harvard Medical School offers a Doctor of Osteopathy degree in their pre-med program. So does Yale University Medical School. Yale Hospital has DOs on staff.

You might not like the idea that the body's functions are all inter-related, and you might not have been taught that. But that doesn't make it untrue. I get that it makes no sense to treat headaches with a manicure, or fix a broken bone by exploring your relationship with your mom. But when it comes to general health, looking at the big picture can sometimes tell you more than checking specific lab results.

100%. And, as if, excess stress and negative mental issues can't have a dispositive impact on your physical body. Certainly, they can.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-25-2024 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyDog (Post 2364054)
100%. And, as if, excess stress and negative mental issues can't have a dispositive impact on your physical body. Certainly, they can.

That said, I do not consider alt-med to be valid medical care. Osteopathy is not alt-med. But all this chelation, super-supplementing, IV transfusions, gong therapy (yes, it's a thing), earthing, grounding, and homeopathy - nope.

Osteopathy I consider an adjunct to Western medicine - what some people call allopathic medicine. Acupuncture/acupressure, aromatherapy, compound pharmacology, and even chiropractic for specific situations - are all adjunct, not alternative. They don't replace allopathic practice. They're used in addition to allopathic practice. They are complementary.

AMB444 08-25-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2364047)
There's the alt-med center: HealthCare Partners Family Medicine

The doctor there is an MD, not a DO, but they specialize in holistic and alternative medicine. They're on 441 across the street from the Villages/UF Spanish Plaines/Name_of_the_Month Hospital.

There's a DO office with Dr. Karl Mueller and Dr. Connie Mercer at the Orlando Health Medical Group, also on 441, across from the Plaza Grande strip-mall. They're in the same area as Tire Choice, just south of the golf cart bridge into the Historic Section.

Thank you, OrangeBlossomBaby!

golfing eagles 08-25-2024 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2364058)
That said, I do not consider alt-med to be valid medical care. Osteopathy is not alt-med. But all this chelation, super-supplementing, IV transfusions, gong therapy (yes, it's a thing), earthing, grounding, and homeopathy - nope.

Osteopathy I consider an adjunct to Western medicine - what some people call allopathic medicine. Acupuncture/acupressure, aromatherapy, compound pharmacology, and even chiropractic for specific situations - are all adjunct, not alternative. They don't replace allopathic practice. They're used in addition to allopathic practice. They are complementary.

That's your best post on the subject (the first was "questionable")---Osteopathy School at Harvard IS FAR FROM Harvard Med. First I heard of "gong therapy", I'll put in the trash can with "crystal healing" and "image therapy".

But as you know, there are people who believe in that garbage. And the really funny part is they'll pay those charlatans hundreds and thousands of dollars, but b!t(h and moan over their $10 copay at a real doctor's office, which BTW is mandated by their insurance carrier, not the physician.

GreggC69 08-25-2024 06:58 PM

I am not sure there is universal agreement on what "holistic" medicine is. I for one have had great success with practitioners who approach "healthcare" from a more holistic approach. There are many healthcare providers who tend to practice "sick care" and unfortunately are much controlled by big pharma...i.e. "what hurts or bothers you? Here...take this pill". I prefer a practitioner who looks at all domains of life to partner with me to create healthy habits and lifestyle. You are likely to find that with younger practitioners as well rather than those from a more "old school" approach.

Kenswing 08-25-2024 07:35 PM

Geez. She asked for references not a freakin lecture.

Sandabern 08-26-2024 04:29 AM

Exactly!!
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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2364081)
Geez. She asked for references not a freakin lecture.



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