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mntlblok 12-01-2024 07:10 PM

Overseeding?
 
Played Mangrove today. Looked like the greens had been overseeded with rye. Don't recall seeing any overseeding last year - our first year here.

tophcfa 12-01-2024 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2390210)
Played Mangrove today. Looked like the greens had been overseeded with rye. Don't recall seeing any overseeding last year - our first year here.

Up until a few years ago the courses were overseeded every fall, but the practice was stopped. After the disastrous conditions last winter I wouldn’t be surprised if they started doing it again, but that ship has sailed this year. Overseeding needs to be done early to mid fall, while it’s still growing season, so the ryegrass can establish itself before the colder winter weather arrives.

kkingston57 12-02-2024 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2390210)
Played Mangrove today. Looked like the greens had been overseeded with rye. Don't recall seeing any overseeding last year - our first year here.

Bet this is an anomaly and their grass was SO BAD that they had to resort to it.

Mrmean58 12-03-2024 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2390397)
Bet this is an anomaly and their grass was SO BAD that they had to resort to it.

Do you know this as fact or just spreading your own verbal manure? Fact is several courses have had their greens over seeded this year. The real test will be this spring when the over seed begins to die off and the Bermuda has yet to fill back in.

BrianL99 12-03-2024 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2390397)
Bet this is an anomaly and their grass was SO BAD that they had to resort to it.

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Originally Posted by Mrmean58 (Post 2390419)
Do you know this as fact or just spreading your own verbal manure? Fact is several courses have had their greens over seeded this year. The real test will be this spring when the over seed begins to die off and the Bermuda has yet to fill back in.

Do you know this for a FACT or just spreading conjecture?

"Overseeding" in the golf business, is the term used when the existing grass (Bermuda) is "over seeded" with with another kind of grass (typically Rye), when the Bermuda stops growing in the colder months.

After so many years of not overseeding in the winter, if The Villages suddenly made a decision to go back to overseeding, I think the District would have announced it and got some public relations mileage out of the decision.

mntlblok 12-03-2024 07:57 AM

Sure *looked* like it
 
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2390422)
Do you know this for a FACT or just spreading conjecture?

"Overseeding" in the golf business, is the term used when the existing grass (Bermuda) is "over seeded" with with another kind of grass (typically Rye), when the Bermuda stops growing in the colder months.

After so many years of not overseeding in the winter, if The Villages suddenly made a decision to go back to overseeding, I think the District would have announced it and got some public relations mileage out of the decision.

It could be something other than overseeded rye, but it sure looked like what I've seen previously elsewhere with that process. The guys working at the starter's shack were unaware of any difference with the looks of the greens. Haven't seen anything like it at the few other courses we've visited lately. Still recovering from shanks-induced PTSD. Swing changes can be tricky. :-)

There is absolutely an element of conjecture. Just so much more fun to run it by ToTV than to try to get the info directly from the district - especially if they did it and had some reason not to announce it. :-) Guess I'm also still waiting to learn just what happened last year with Tarpon Boil's greens. Looked a *lot* like greens that had been scalped after dormancy had arrived.

Dilligas 12-03-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2390210)
Played Mangrove today. Looked like the greens had been overseeded with rye. Don't recall seeing any overseeding last year - our first year here.

Mast likely, they didn’t cut the green down and left the surface hairy to keep from losing it. The courses were closed for an extended period due to Milton and water runoff and the surface is now recovering. (my guess)

mntlblok 12-03-2024 08:48 AM

Color and texture
 
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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 2390492)
Mast likely, they didn’t cut the green down and left the surface hairy to keep from losing it. The courses were closed for an extended period due to Milton and water runoff and the surface is now recovering. (my guess)

The areas that appeared to be rye were much lighter green in color and the blades had a different, finer texture. They also didn't completely cover the whole surfaces of the greens. Very curious to learn just what's going on.

BrianL99 12-03-2024 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2390474)

Still recovering from shanks-induced PTSD. Swing changes can be tricky. :-)

There are some who will disagree with me, but I believe that 99% of all shanks are caused by one thing ... a change in spine angle, which can occur in one of 3 ways.

1. You "stand up" during your swing.

2. You "squat" during your swing (less likely).

3. You "hump the goat", which means you thrust your hips towards the ball on your downswing.


Other than correcting which of those (3) possibilities are causing your shanks, there's only one other cure. A Quarter, a Dime & a Penny, in your left front pocket. It helps if the dime is an original, real "silver" dime. Always cures the shanks.


[& I've seen some of the finer, "brighter" green grass sprouts, that look suspiciously like rye grass. Just a guess, but I suspect it's coming in on mowing equipment or some such source as that.]

Bogie Shooter 12-03-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2390502)
The areas that appeared to be rye were much lighter green in color and the blades had a different, finer texture. They also didn't completely cover the whole surfaces of the greens. Very curious to learn just what's going on.

Isn’t there someone you can call?

tophcfa 12-03-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2390474)
There is absolutely an element of conjecture. Just so much more fun to run it by ToTV than to try to get the info directly from the district - especially if they did it and had some reason not to announce it. :-) .

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2390547)
Isn’t there someone you can call?

Reason for not calling already discussed earlier in thread. Besides, what fun would that be?

Bogie Shooter 12-03-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2390557)
Reason for not calling already discussed earlier in thread. Besides, what fun would that be?

Easy to recognize as trolling ………..:duck:

mntlblok 12-03-2024 11:28 AM

Colors
 
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2390544)
[& I've seen some of the finer, "brighter" green grass sprouts, that look suspiciously like rye grass. Just a guess, but I suspect it's coming in on mowing equipment or some such source as that.]

That reminds me. Also noticed on maybe the last green that the fringe seemed to have been painted or dyed a different, darker shade of green than the putting surface. Over fifty percent of the putting surface was the light green stuff, so that woulda been some pretty interesting mowing equipment. :-)

tophcfa 12-03-2024 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2390567)
Easy to recognize as trolling ………..:duck:

Seeking out alternative sources of information isn’t trolling, it’s what makes TOTV an interesting and informative forum. Who would want to log into TOTV if the answer to every question was either call someone or go to the CDD website? 99% of posters are well aware that those sources of information are available, but instead consciously choose to seek out the opinions of fellow Villagers.

mntlblok 12-03-2024 12:01 PM

EE
 
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2390544)
There are some who will disagree with me, but I believe that 99% of all shanks are caused by one thing ... a change in spine angle, which can occur in one of 3 ways.

1. You "stand up" during your swing.

2. You "squat" during your swing (less likely).

3. You "hump the goat", which means you thrust your hips towards the ball on your downswing.

Having watched sickening amounts of DTL video of my swing, am well aware of my ugly EE. Hadn't differentiated standing up and goat humping, but likely some of both. Can limit it at times, but it's become clear that it's never gonna get fixed. Workarounds had me capable of avoiding both the toe and hosel versions. Worked through many cans of foot spray on the lanai with the Mevo. The low and high on the face contact related to same seems to be best dealt with by limiting myself to par 3s where I can tee it up a little every time - like here at the executives, and that's largely why we're here. Physical issues took away the tennis tournament hobby, yet "sort of" still allow golf.

Recent excellent lesson with PGApromike found me some means for more consistently preventing the open club face at contact that wants to sneak in. My mis-application of those seems to have been the proximate cause of those recent "troubles". Modifying some "feels" has things looking up. . .


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