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manaboutown 12-29-2024 06:15 PM

R I P Jimmy Carter
 
Jimmy Carter, 39th president of the United States, dead at 100 | Fox News

Taltarzac725 12-29-2024 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2397227)

R.I.P.

Great man. Not saying anything more.

Ecuadog 12-29-2024 06:57 PM

Rest in peace.

Normal 12-29-2024 07:34 PM

Billy Beer
 
I’ll remember him for Billy Beer and the “Carter Quarter” Susan B that is now worth 5.54 because of inflation. At the time he was elected, American wanted anyone on the planet besides Nixon’s Ford. By default he won and he kept us out of conflicts when we were so war tired from greedy LBJ’s mess. What was the lesser of two evils turned out to be a gem in the rough.

RIP

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-29-2024 08:05 PM

He was a decent President - who was up against some insane challenges that happened while he was President, but not "because" he was President. He handled some of them well - such as ending the war between Egypt and Israel, strengthening America's position against Russian nuclear weapons. Some not so well - he and Congress had a tumultuous relationship and he often would snipe at them. He floundered during the Iran oil strike/energy crisis/inflation, which culminated in one recession caused by the Federal Reserve's monetary policies. Then a second recession caused by a shift to another extreme set of policies by the Federal Reserve. In other words - it happened on Carter's watch. But Carter didn't cause it or create it. He just got stuck holding the bag, so to speak.

But he was one of the Great Humanitarians of the last century, beginning in his childhood during Segregation, when he defied his father's wishes and befriended black workers on the farm - and worked WITH them because he considered himself to be their equal, not their superior, throughout his life serving his local community, and post-Presidency continuing his peace missions and direct personal involvement in Habitat for Humanity, even into his 90's. He was a life-long servant of the people.

badkarma318 12-29-2024 08:39 PM

I give him credit for having the stones to approve Operation Eagle Claw (Delta's mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran). Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.

Taltarzac725 12-29-2024 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2397240)
He was a decent President - who was up against some insane challenges that happened while he was President, but not "because" he was President. He handled some of them well - such as ending the war between Egypt and Israel, strengthening America's position against Russian nuclear weapons. Some not so well - he and Congress had a tumultuous relationship and he often would snipe at them. He floundered during the Iran oil strike/energy crisis/inflation, which culminated in one recession caused by the Federal Reserve's monetary policies. Then a second recession caused by a shift to another extreme set of policies by the Federal Reserve. In other words - it happened on Carter's watch. But Carter didn't cause it or create it. He just got stuck holding the bag, so to speak.

But he was one of the Great Humanitarians of the last century, beginning in his childhood during Segregation, when he defied his father's wishes and befriended black workers on the farm - and worked WITH them because he considered himself to be their equal, not their superior, throughout his life serving his local community, and post-Presidency continuing his peace missions and direct personal involvement in Habitat for Humanity, even into his 90's. He was a life-long servant of the people.

Well said. Got some nice responses from him and his wife to my various letters about different topics. He loved humanity. Often a hard thing to do. He and his wife did it with great grace.

Topspinmo 12-30-2024 12:35 AM

I was in military while he was president, couldn’t get 15 cent O-rings or 5 dollar gaskets to build jet engines, couldn’t meet our war readiness spares so we were on 12 shifts 7 days a week twiddling our thumbs for months. This was right after Vietnam war and every B52 engine had to be completely rebuild due to salt air rotted out stator compressor vanes. There reason he lost. Personally I think he’s not bad person just il informed with other priorities and military wasn’t one of them IMO.

Caymus 12-30-2024 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by badkarma318 (Post 2397241)
I give him credit for having the stones to approve Operation Eagle Claw (Delta's mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran). Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.

Due to problems, he created by not supporting the Shah of Iran and not adequately maintaining the military.

Rainger99 12-30-2024 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by badkarma318 (Post 2397241)
Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.

You say they didn’t fail?
Interesting spin.

It’s like saying White Star didn’t fail in Titanic’s attempt to break the record for a transatlantic crossing because the ship sank.

jbartle1 12-30-2024 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2397240)
He was a decent President - who was up against some insane challenges that happened while he was President, but not "because" he was President. He handled some of them well - such as ending the war between Egypt and Israel, strengthening America's position against Russian nuclear weapons. Some not so well - he and Congress had a tumultuous relationship and he often would snipe at them. He floundered during the Iran oil strike/energy crisis/inflation, which culminated in one recession caused by the Federal Reserve's monetary policies. Then a second recession caused by a shift to another extreme set of policies by the Federal Reserve. In other words - it happened on Carter's watch. But Carter didn't cause it or create it. He just got stuck holding the bag, so to speak.

But he was one of the Great Humanitarians of the last century, beginning in his childhood during Segregation, when he defied his father's wishes and befriended black workers on the farm - and worked WITH them because he considered himself to be their equal, not their superior, throughout his life serving his local community, and post-Presidency continuing his peace missions and direct personal involvement in Habitat for Humanity, even into his 90's. He was a life-long servant of the people.

I agree, a GREAT humanitarian! Never LIED to American people

BrianL99 12-30-2024 07:51 AM

He was by far, the most incompetent President of the last 50 years.

After 2 years of bungling the Iran Hostage situation, it took Ronald Reagan only a few hours to have the hostages freed.

He gave away the Panama Canal, after campaigning on a platform that aggressively condemned any plans to give up the Canal Zone.

Then he was one of the few former Presidents who actively sought to undermine subsequent Presidents, with his constant meddling in foreign affairs.

Of any President in the last 50 years, he was the one most disliked by the agency we pay to protect our Presidents.

His legacy is that of a bumbling fool, who was only elected because the prior President couldn't get elected dog catcher, after his short term in office and pardoning of Nixon.

Taltarzac725 12-30-2024 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by badkarma318 (Post 2397241)
I give him credit for having the stones to approve Operation Eagle Claw (Delta's mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran). Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2397284)
He was by far, the most incompetent President of the last 50 years.

After 2 years of bungling the Iran Hostage situation, it took Ronald Reagan only a few hours to have the hostages freed.

He gave away the Panama Canal, after campaigning on a platform that aggressively condemned any plans to give up the Canal Zone.

Then he was one of the few former Presidents who actively sought to undermine subsequent Presidents, with his constant meddling in foreign affairs.

Of any President in the last 50 years, he was the one most disliked by the agency we pay to protect our Presidents.

His legacy is that of a bumbling fool, who was only elected because the prior President couldn't get elected dog catcher, after his short term in office and pardoning of Nixon.

He is ranked around 24th of 46 Presidents by historians. And he had little power to interfer in foreign affairs. He also liked to interact a lot with regular people rather than rich people and foreign leaders. Probably a headache for the Secret Service with him building homes for people with next to nothing around the world.

A great man after being a mediocre POTUS.

ElDiabloJoe 12-30-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2397284)
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Of any President in the last 50 years, he was the one most disliked by the agency we pay to protect our Presidents.
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Oh, I think he was a close second to the Clintons Cabal.

manaboutown 12-30-2024 09:24 AM

Well, my mother told me that if I could not say something nice to not say anything at all, so ....

Also to not speak ill of the dead


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