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Rainger99 03-14-2025 06:52 AM

You are not alone!! Pros miss a lot of short putts!!
 
This is encouraging for those of us who (occasionally) miss short putts!

According to research by Mark Broadie, a professor at Columbia University who is responsible for the 'strokes gained” concept, on average, PGA TOUR pros make 99% of 2-foot putts, 96% of 3-foot putts, 88% of 4-foot putts and 77% of 5-foot putts.

golfing eagles 03-14-2025 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2415987)
This is encouraging for those of us who (occasionally) miss short putts!

According to research by Mark Broadie, a professor at Columbia University who is responsible for the 'strokes gained” concept, on average, PGA TOUR pros make 99% of 2-foot putts, 96% of 3-foot putts, 88% of 4-foot putts and 77% of 5-foot putts.

Yes, but they’re missing those few short putts under tournament conditions on greens that run 13, not a casual round in The Villages where the greens run 8

Topspinmo 03-14-2025 07:23 AM

Missing Putts has alway run my score up

Rainger99 03-14-2025 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2415998)
Yes, but they’re missing those few short putts under tournament conditions on greens that run 13, not a casual round in The Villages where the greens run 8

But they are pros. They practice 8 hours a day and have been doing that for years.

And the greens here are a lot worse than PGA greens. We have weeds, dead spots, etc., and some of them are probably 13 or faster!!

Stu from NYC 03-14-2025 07:33 AM

Can we get a mulligan on short puts?

golfing eagles 03-14-2025 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2416004)
But they are pros. They practice 8 hours a day and have been doing that for years.

And the greens here are a lot worse than PGA greens. We have weeds, dead spots, etc., and some of them are probably 13 or faster!!

The Villages greens can't even spell thirteen:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

jimhoward 03-14-2025 08:27 AM

I think I make more putts on faster greens. The ball rolls more true. You just have to adjust for the pace.

I think I make almost as many putts as pros from 2 feet. But my percentage is way lower at 4 or 5 feet. No statistics to back this up, its my subjective feel. Anybody else have a similar impression?

retiredguy123 03-14-2025 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2416043)
I think I make more putts on faster greens. The ball rolls more true. You just have to adjust for the pace.

I think I make almost as many putts as pros from 2 feet. But my percentage is way lower at 4 or 5 feet. No statistics to back this up, its my subjective feel. Anybody else have a similar impression?

I agree. But I will add that physics tells you that the margin for error for missing a putt when the ball is moving too fast is reduced on a fast green. If you plot the ball speed vs distance travelled, you will see that the distance during which the ball is travelling slow enough to fall into the hole is longer on a fast green. So, as long as you hit the ball hard enough to get to the hole, you will make more putts on a fast green than on a slow green.

Stu from NYC 03-14-2025 09:54 AM

I have determined that on windy and snowy days I putt more and enjoy it less

justjim 03-14-2025 11:02 AM

OP, quoted statistics from PGA tour. I read in one of the major golf magazines that pro male golfers on an average putt a bit better than pro female golfers. After observing both PGA and LPGA several times, I agree. I have always putted much better on fast greens, thus, have putting issues on our executive courses.

rustyp 03-14-2025 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2416009)
Can we get a mulligan on short puts?

Take a gimme - the odds are much better than a mulligan.

FloridaGuy66 03-14-2025 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2416043)
I think I make almost as many putts as pros from 2 feet.

If you played the same courses that these pros play every week, it's very doubtful that you would make the same percentage of 2 footers.

Rwirish 03-15-2025 05:03 AM

Not an apples to apples comparison. Very different greens under a lot of pressure.

Whatnext 03-15-2025 05:07 AM

Far too many gimmes inside 3 foot. Putt out and find out your real score per round.

Elixir34 03-15-2025 07:34 AM

“I don’t fear death, but I sure don’t like those 3-foot putts for par.”
~ Chi Chi Rodriguez ~


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