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AMB444 04-04-2025 12:57 AM

More people are coming to use our facilities that we pay for
 
We pay for pickle ball, rec center and pools, etc.


But TV is not checking all that often to make sure they are residents.

What should be done to make sure the $$ we pay each month doesn't pay for these people coming in to free load.

Arctic Fox 04-04-2025 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2420758)
We pay for pickle ball, rec center and pools, etc. But TV is not checking all that often to make sure they are residents.

What should be done to make sure the $$ we pay each month doesn't pay for these people coming in to free load.

Volunteer to go around the facilities, checking IDs

Papa_lecki 04-04-2025 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2420758)
We pay for pickle ball, rec center and pools, etc.


But TV is not checking all that often to make sure they are residents.

What should be done to make sure the $$ we pay each month doesn't pay for these people coming in to free load.

Are you willing to pay more in amenity fees to pay people to drive around and check IDs?

gbs317 04-04-2025 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2420767)
Are you willing to pay more in amenity fees to pay people to drive around and check IDs?

The real question would be, if we do pay more in amenity fees will it be used to hire people to check ID’s???

Bill14564 04-04-2025 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gbs317 (Post 2420773)
The real question would be, if we do pay more in amenity fees will it be used to hire people to check ID’s???

No, it will be used to cover the increasing cost of maintaining the facilities. If you want more people on payroll then you need to choose something else that won’t get done. If you want continuous monitoring at pools and pickleball courts then you will have to explain to residents why someone is being paid to sit at the pool all day.

Bill14564 04-04-2025 05:15 AM

I predict just the presence of this thread will solve the problem. I predict that fewer “others” will use the facilities now that this post is here. In about 60 days the pools will seem empty.

Unfortunately, the post will only work for about seven months and by December the “others” will be back using the facilities we pay for.

golfing eagles 04-04-2025 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by papa_lecki (Post 2420767)
are you willing to pay more in amenity fees to pay people to drive around and check ids?

yes

asianthree 04-04-2025 05:28 AM

I guess we are one of the few that has an employee on site everyday, at all the courts, pool, shuffle board and beach facilities open to close. As soon as you park they are right there asking for ID before you exit your cart or car. Many of us are everyday players, that employees wave as they drive in. Maybe it’s a south of 44 perk:a040:

GpaVader 04-04-2025 05:49 AM

While I don't want uninvited guests using our facilities, I really wish we could revisit this 3 county rule as it applies to things like clubs. I run a club and have a lot of people that would like to attend but can't because they don't have a Villages ID or guest pass. These are people that have something to contribute to the club and the community, not take anything away from other Villagers.

Is it possible to strike a balance on this? A Non Villager can play golf at the Championship courses....

Bill14564 04-04-2025 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GpaVader (Post 2420792)
While I don't want uninvited guests using our facilities, I really wish we could revisit this 3 county rule as it applies to things like clubs. I run a club and have a lot of people that would like to attend but can't because they don't have a Villages ID or guest pass. These are people that have something to contribute to the club and the community, not take anything away from other Villagers.

Is it possible to strike a balance on this? A Non Villager can play golf at the Championship courses....

The championship courses are not amenities, the rec centers are.

The programs at the rec centers are supposed to benefit us Villagers. If non-Villagers are allowed in then it displaces interested residents. If there are not enough interested residents then there is no need for the program.

asianthree 04-04-2025 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2420798)
The championship courses are not amenities, the rec centers are.

The programs at the rec centers are supposed to benefit us Villagers. If non-Villagers are allowed in then it displaces interested residents. If there are not enough interested residents then there is no need for the program.

In the month of March 4 separate occasions at the regional centers, employees checking ids for classes, held back guest pass to allow all the Residents to enter the classes. If there was room the guests were allowed to enter.

That is the first time I have ever had that happen in over 15 years. Not sure if it’s a new rule, but I think it’s only fair for Resident get into a class and guest have to fill in

HappyTraveler 04-04-2025 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GpaVader (Post 2420792)
While I don't want uninvited guests using our facilities, I really wish we could revisit this 3 county rule as it applies to things like clubs. I run a club and have a lot of people that would like to attend but can't because they don't have a Villages ID or guest pass. These are people that have something to contribute to the club and the community, not take anything away from other Villagers.

Is it possible to strike a balance on this? A Non Villager can play golf at the Championship courses....

If your club activities don't include using amenities that Villagers pay for you can create the club on Meetup.com. Then, anyone in the area can join.

Arlington2 04-04-2025 06:41 AM

My experience with other communities is the use of turnstiles and badge swipes with fewer personnel. It seemed to work. This has been suggested to TV numerous times and rejected.

CarlR33 04-04-2025 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Arlington2 (Post 2420815)
My experience with other communities is the use of turnstiles and badge swipes with fewer personnel. It seemed to work. This has been suggested to TV numerous times and rejected.

Or just lock it down at the gate making it a true gated community. Less turnstiles that way.

Bill14564 04-04-2025 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Arlington2 (Post 2420815)
My experience with other communities is the use of turnstiles and badge swipes with fewer personnel. It seemed to work. This has been suggested to TV numerous times and rejected.

As this has been suggested numerous times, it would be interesting to see the count of turnstiles needed and the cost for implementing the plan. Two turnstiles at the neighborhood pool, one at the family pool, two at the pickleball courts, and another two at the tennis courts make seven turnstiles at just the two facilities nearest to my home. Multiply that by the hundreds (?) of facilities around the Villages and you're talking about real money.

PLUS, the passes I get for my guests do not have chips in them so how would they work with the turnstiles? Put a barcode on the passes and a reader at the turnstiles? Pay for chipped guest cards and the infrastructure to constantly modify the database? Change the rules to say that I must now accompany my guests when they go to the pool?


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