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justjim 04-14-2025 08:16 PM

Leesburg moratorium on development
 
The Leesburg city council is meeting tonight to discuss their residents petition to pause new development until January 2027. Really?

Apparently, 1300 people a day move into Florida. Central Florida is receiving more than their share of new arrivals. When does too much growth become too much? South Florida didn’t stop development in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. Look at South Florida now. Look at California and Arizona’s valley of the sun. Do you want to move to LA? Leesburg is next door to The Villages means Leesburg might as well embrace “growth” because it’s certainly coming their way and Leesburg can’t stop it.

tophcfa 04-14-2025 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2424432)
When does too much growth become too much?

Easy answer. When the health care system can’t even come close to keeping up with the rate of growth.

Ruger2506 04-15-2025 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2424432)
The Leesburg city council is meeting tonight to discuss their residents petition to pause new development until January 2027. Really?

Apparently, 1300 people a day move into Florida. Central Florida is receiving more than their share of new arrivals. When does too much growth become too much? South Florida didn’t stop development in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. Look at South Florida now. Look at California and Arizona’s valley of the sun. Do you want to move to LA? Leesburg is next door to The Villages means Leesburg might as well embrace “growth” because it’s certainly coming their way and Leesburg can’t stop it.

This reads like your pro development? Good for Leesburg trying to stem the destruction of FL. At least for a moment.

DrMack 04-15-2025 07:04 AM

Decreasing Immigration to Florida
 
There has been a huge decrease in immigration to Florida.

The net migration of people moving to Florida from other American states has fallen sharply from 317,923 in 2022, to just 63,346 in December 2024 and these statistics still demonstrate sharp decline. Further, many of these immigrants were international.

I don’t think there will be much of a concern in another year.

Bill14564 04-15-2025 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2424504)
There has been a huge decrease in immigration to Florida.

The net migration of people moving to Florida from other American states has fallen sharply from 317,923 in 2022, to just 63,346 in December 2024 and these statistics still demonstrate sharp decline. Further, many of these immigrants were international.

I don’t think there will be much of a concern in another year.

You stopped reading too soon. The very next paragraph from that article reads:
However, the Sunshine State still saw its population surge by 467,347 from 2023 to 2024, according to the estimate, primarily due to the inflow of 411,322 international migrants.
Florida's population growth from 2023-2024 was the third highest in history.

Jayhawk 04-15-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2424485)
This reads like your pro development? Good for Leesburg trying to stem the destruction of FL. At least for a moment.

So to clarify, you didn't move to Florida and contribute to the destruction you mention?

asianthree 04-15-2025 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2424439)
Easy answer. When the health care system can’t even come close to keeping up with the rate of growth.

No worries multiple people die everyday. Convenient listings in alphabetical order online, print, and memorial cremation business.:icon_wink:

Stu from NYC 04-15-2025 12:09 PM

Some people are afraid of too rapid growth. Can understand that

BrianL99 04-15-2025 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2424504)
There has been a huge decrease in immigration to Florida.

The net migration of people moving to Florida from other American states has fallen sharply from 317,923 in 2022, to just 63,346 in December 2024 and these statistics still demonstrate sharp decline. Further, many of these immigrants were international.

I don’t think there will be much of a concern in another year.


I think you need to check your math.

If 63,346 people moved to Florida in December 2024, that's an annualized rate of 760,000.

Well more than DOUBLE the 317,923 who moved to Florida in 2022.

Also, you may want to check your sources. Would you consider the US Census Office a credible source? Migration Drives Highest Population Growth in Decades

justjim 04-15-2025 01:35 PM

Health care
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2424439)
Easy answer. When the health care system can’t even come close to keeping up with the rate of growth.

Many would argue that we are already to the point where health care has fallen behind the growth of The Villages.

jimhoward 04-15-2025 04:23 PM

Expanding health care just gets you more old farts moving here. What Leesburg needs is more industry and technology.

I can see why they would want to limit development if development means retirement homes, low-end housing for service employees and strip plazas.

kkingston57 04-15-2025 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2424609)
No worries multiple people die everyday. Convenient listings in alphabetical order online, print, and memorial cremation business.:icon_wink:


Only problem is that most of the growth comes from retirees who are older and more likely to have higher medical problems and builders are not building communities for professionals like doctors.

justjim 04-15-2025 08:00 PM

Leesburg city council voted NO for the moratorium to pause new development until 2027. The city manager and 4 of 5 council members opposed the “stop growth” measure. New business would just go elsewhere in Lake and Sumter counties and Leesburg would be the real looser with such a moratorium. It was suggested that energy and effort would be better used to lobby State and area counties to provide the necessary resources to build roads and infrastructure to handle the growth that is here now and coming in the future. Impact fees were mentioned. Seems like we heard that solution before.

jimdecastro 04-16-2025 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2424432)
The Leesburg city council is meeting tonight to discuss their residents petition to pause new development until January 2027. Really?

Apparently, 1300 people a day move into Florida. Central Florida is receiving more than their share of new arrivals. When does too much growth become too much? South Florida didn’t stop development in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. Look at South Florida now. Look at California and Arizona’s valley of the sun. Do you want to move to LA? Leesburg is next door to The Villages means Leesburg might as well embrace “growth” because it’s certainly coming their way and Leesburg can’t stop it.

Leesburg is NOT next door to The Villages. There are over 5,000 of us in Newell, Lake Denham and Dabney within Leesburg city limits NOW.

asianthree 04-16-2025 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2424665)
Only problem is that most of the growth comes from retirees who are older and more likely to have higher medical problems and builders are not building communities for professionals like doctors.

Had a dinner party last week with 6 highly trained physicians in their field, who have only landed in TV a year ago or less. Four are leaving TV for better salaries within 2-4 months. The only way you can ensure quality professionals is offering a salary worthy of moving. Building communities for professionals that some pay in hospital facilities doesn’t equal Buccee’s is laughable.

Medical professionals leave TV not because of housing, but the lack of pay, and the mundane grind of geriatric patients day in and day out.

Even those who choose Geriatric as a profession rarely stay more than a year or two. Geriatric can be the same as working in a children’s burn unit. Good days are few and far between.


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