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mdchartier 06-22-2025 08:56 AM

Embarrassing
 
Sarasota golf course is in embarrassing shape. Last time I checked our amenity fees covered the upkeep and maintenance of the executive courses. It looks like they just aerated the fairways so I will give them a pass on that, but the tee boxes and greens are in terrible shape. Hole 6 for example has no distinctive collar around the green, it's just clumps of weeds. Collars are extremely important to the playability and aesthetics of a golf course green, creating definition between the putting surface and the rough. You have to see it to believe it, the aesthetics and maintenance of this course is lacking and whoever is in charge of overseeing this should probably take a ride around the course. The courses look great from the street until you actually get on them and see how badly maintained they are. I know the executive courses are sourced out, maybe that is the problem. The championship courses don't look like this, and maybe that's because the employees are residents of the villages and actually care.

Topspinmo 06-22-2025 09:04 AM

Wow, around 700 holes golf in villages that spends millions on course maintenance. Name one place that has close to 700 holes golf access that can maintain every hole to highest standards? I’ll wait for answer…….

Aces4 06-22-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2440709)
Wow, around 700 holes golf in villages that spends millions on course maintenance. Name one place that has close to 700 holes golf access that can maintain every hole to highest standards? I’ll wait for answer…….

In other words, "settle" for crappy conditions because there are many holes of golf? Makes looking at a private golf course membership look pretty good. Many are here for the golf and don't give a hoot about all the other "busywork" things to do. Golf course conditions matter.

Bill14564 06-22-2025 09:40 AM

- Sarasota Executive, on Moyer Loop, is South of 466
- Sumter Landing Amenity Division (SLAD), a committee of Sumter Landing CDD, owns and is responsible for amenities in that area
- The contract to perform the work may be run out of "the District," the Village Center CDD
- The Project Wide Advisory Committee (PWAC), while primarily concerned with CDD maintenance, also advises SLAD
- There is an Executive Golf page under districtgov.org

I suggest looking for a POC to contact or register a complaint with on the Executive Golf page and/or attending the next PWAC meeting to provide your comments in person.

Bogie Shooter 06-22-2025 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchartier (Post 2440708)
Sarasota golf course is in embarrassing shape. Last time I checked our amenity fees covered the upkeep and maintenance of the executive courses. It looks like they just aerated the fairways so I will give them a pass on that, but the tee boxes and greens are in terrible shape. Hole 6 for example has no distinctive collar around the green, it's just clumps of weeds. Collars are extremely important to the playability and aesthetics of a golf course green, creating definition between the putting surface and the rough. You have to see it to believe it, the aesthetics and maintenance of this course is lacking and whoever is in charge of overseeing this should probably take a ride around the course. The courses look great from the street until you actually get on them and see how badly maintained they are. I know the executive courses are sourced out, maybe that is the problem. The championship courses don't look like this, and maybe that's because the employees are residents of the villages and actually care.

Which employees?

Rwirish 06-23-2025 05:14 AM

Just another excuse. The Executive Courses remain in poor shape in general despite all the hoopla at the recent VHA meeting.

Indydealmaker 06-24-2025 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2440720)
In other words, "settle" for crappy conditions because there are many holes of golf? Makes looking at a private golf course membership look pretty good. Many are here for the golf and don't give a hoot about all the other "busywork" things to do. Golf course conditions matter.

Avid players don't choose to play free golf. Pristine costs $$$. Free requires a modicum of "go along to get along".

BrianL99 06-24-2025 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchartier (Post 2440708)
Sarasota golf course is in embarrassing shape .... The championship courses don't look like this, and maybe that's because the employees are residents of the villages and actually care.

Same 3-4 contractors maintain the Exec courses and Championship courses.

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2440720)
Makes looking at a private golf course membership look pretty good. .

Please let me know if you find a private golf course to join, within 45 minutes of The Villages.

Marmaduke 06-24-2025 05:17 AM

O.P.- Your First Post! That's what's Embarrassing, imho.

Gunny2403 06-24-2025 06:57 AM

My least favorite course

Topspinmo 06-24-2025 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2440720)
In other words, "settle" for crappy conditions because there are many holes of golf? Makes looking at a private golf course membership look pretty good. Many are here for the golf and don't give a hoot about all the other "busywork" things to do. Golf course conditions matter.

Go for it, it takes time to get to every 700 plus hole, then there the mismanagement factor. How long will take you get tired of playing same 18 or 36 holes?

Topspinmo 06-24-2025 07:13 AM

The problem most avid golfers think they are PGA material and can’t stand it when they play substandard and look for excuses? Like poor course conditions. Maybe it lack of discipline, concentration, or skill? In Every sport everybody misses, nobody prefect so don’t expect conditions to be prefect to match your perception of your skill.

TomSpasm 06-24-2025 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2440855)
Just another excuse. The Executive Courses remain in poor shape in general despite all the hoopla at the recent VHA meeting.

I play Executive Golf twice a week at courses north of 44 and I've not played a course in poor shape in at least a year. Where are all these courses in "poor shape"?

Maker 06-24-2025 09:05 AM

Maybe eliminate golf maintenance costs from all amenity fees, and charge enough money per round to have better maintenance than the present way.
That way, the people who golf can decide with their wallet if playing the course is worth it.

Aces4 06-24-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2441044)
Avid players don't choose to play free golf. Pristine costs $$$. Free requires a modicum of "go along to get along".

In a perfect world, I would agree with you. But there are many avid golfers in The Villages who lack the $$$ funding to pursue a game to which they are addicted. So I guess cow pastures would be their lot? :$:


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