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HappyTraveler 08-31-2025 01:09 PM

What is this creature?!
 
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Fri, 5PM, my dog and I are finishing a walk on the paths at Paradise Lake, we're 10 ft from the car and she pulls me toward the lake. All I see are ducks paddling around so, I was surprised she cared about that. But no, instantly, a creature goes walking by that had my eyes get wide and my dog on high alert.

It looked the size of a malnourished Italian Greyhound (they're small), like this. https://tinyurl.com/3da8r8dn
It was about 15-16 inches high; weighed about 15 lbs. The striking features were: it was hairless, had an exceptionally long tail and long snout. I've been around thousands of dogs in the last 35 years and that was no dog.

It scurries across Paradise Dr towards the Archery field. A couple were in a golf cart at the stop sign there and their dog jumps out and gives chase. I could tell they were totally stunned that their dog did that. The smell of that creature must have been totally wild which is why my dog and theirs reacted to it.

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I thought that was the end of it and I'd never see it again - whatever it was. But, on Sat eve at 9PM, I'm driving on Bichara Blvd in Spanish Springs and I see it in the road eating some food. These are the only images I could get....they're grainy. Notice a tail that almost touches the ground, back legs like a kangaroo and a long snout. You can't see it but, it's basically hairless. My small dog was in the car and couldn't see it but, she caught a whiff from the AC vents and started to bark. Wild scent.

Has anyone else seen this creature? I did some keyword searching on an image search engine and these critters have been spotted elsewhere in the country. There's some dispute about what they are....small coyote or fox? Obviously with a serious case of mange.

‘Mangy coyote’ spotted in Pa. town turns out to be something else entirely - pennlive.com

Your browser is not supported | nwfdailynews.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/biology/com..._a_bushy_tail/ It looked closest to this but, without the fur.

ThirdOfFive 08-31-2025 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTraveler (Post 2458026)
Fri, 5PM, my dog and I are finishing a walk on the paths at Paradise Lake, we're 10 ft from the car and she pulls me toward the lake. All I see are ducks paddling around so, I was surprised she cared about that. But no, instantly, a creature goes walking by that had my eyes get wide and my dog on high alert.

It looked the size of a malnourished Italian Greyhound (they're small), like this. https://tinyurl.com/3da8r8dn
It was about 15-16 inches high; weighed about 15 lbs. The striking features were: it was hairless, had an exceptionally long tail and long snout. I've been around thousands of dogs in the last 35 years and that was no dog.

It scurries across Paradise Dr towards the Archery field. A couple were in a golf cart at the stop sign there and their dog jumps out and gives chase. I could tell they were totally stunned that their dog did that. The smell of that creature must have been totally wild which is why my dog and theirs reacted to it.

Attachment 109750

Attachment 109751

Attachment 109752

I thought that was the end of it and I'd never see it again - whatever it was. But, on Sat eve at 9PM, I'm driving on Bichara Blvd in Spanish Springs and I see it in the road eating some food. These are the only images I could get....they're grainy. Notice a tail that almost touches the ground, back legs like a kangaroo and a long snout. You can't see it but, it's basically hairless. My small dog was in the car and couldn't see it but, she caught a whiff from the AC vents and started to bark. Wild scent.

Has anyone else seen this creature? I did some keyword searching on an image search engine and these critters have been spotted elsewhere in the country. There's some dispute about what they are....small coyote or fox? Obviously with a serious case of mange.

‘Mangy coyote’ spotted in Pa. town turns out to be something else entirely - pennlive.com

Your browser is not supported | nwfdailynews.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/biology/com..._a_bushy_tail/ It looked closest to this but, without the fur.

One REALLY scrawny coyote?

Taltarzac725 08-31-2025 01:42 PM

Land Mammals - Red Fox | FWC

Could be a red fox.

HappyTraveler 08-31-2025 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2458032)
One REALLY scrawny coyote?

I was going with the fox theory but, you could be right. It may be a juvenile coyote that's very undernourished causing the exaggerated sloop of the hind legs.

Here's one with the long snout, tall pointed ears and tail almost to the ground. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...is_latrans.jpg

Taltarzac725 08-31-2025 01:48 PM

How Mange, a Terminal Disease, Afflicts Red Fox | The Outside Story


Red Fox with mange.

HappyTraveler 08-31-2025 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2458036)

Ok yep, I think that's right. ^^^ Very weird to see.
Here's an image that's almost identical to what I saw. Fox with extreme mange.
Mites, Mange and Misery in the Desert

Taltarzac725 08-31-2025 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTraveler (Post 2458039)
Ok yep, I think that's right. ^^^ Very weird to see.
Here's an image that's almost identical to what I saw. Fox with extreme mange.
Mites, Mange and Misery in the Desert

Wildlife Health | FWC Wildlife Health | FWC


Mange is a serious problem you might want to contact the FWC. From my reading dogs can get it.

Babbs1957 08-31-2025 04:21 PM

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Taken about two weeks ago over near Vista Ct and Rio Grande.

I think it is coyote with mange.

Taltarzac725 08-31-2025 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Babbs1957 (Post 2458056)
Taken about two weeks ago over near Vista Ct and Rio Grande.

I think it is coyote with mange.

Certainly looks like it. Probably deceased now.

tophcfa 08-31-2025 06:31 PM

Looks like a mangy fox? Best to keep your distance in case of the very rare rabies infection.

Topspinmo 08-31-2025 09:18 PM

Looks like fox that shedding? I seen one couple years ago in fall and it looked same, probably scavenging road kill?

Wildlife has hard time surviving everything wants to kill it. Especially foxes and coyotes most of there habit been bulldozed.

Topspinmo 08-31-2025 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Babbs1957 (Post 2458056)
Taken about two weeks ago over near Vista Ct and Rio Grande.

I think it is coyote with mange.

Probably very sick, usually don’t see coyotes or foxes in daylight.

Taltarzac725 08-31-2025 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2458091)
Probably very sick, usually don’t see coyotes or foxes in daylight.

Mange looks like a very slow and painful death.

elle123 09-01-2025 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyTraveler (Post 2458026)
Fri, 5PM, my dog and I are finishing a walk on the paths at Paradise Lake, we're 10 ft from the car and she pulls me toward the lake. All I see are ducks paddling around so, I was surprised she cared about that. But no, instantly, a creature goes walking by that had my eyes get wide and my dog on high alert.

It looked the size of a malnourished Italian Greyhound (they're small), like this. https://tinyurl.com/3da8r8dn
It was about 15-16 inches high; weighed about 15 lbs. The striking features were: it was hairless, had an exceptionally long tail and long snout. I've been around thousands of dogs in the last 35 years and that was no dog.

It scurries across Paradise Dr towards the Archery field. A couple were in a golf cart at the stop sign there and their dog jumps out and gives chase. I could tell they were totally stunned that their dog did that. The smell of that creature must have been totally wild which is why my dog and theirs reacted to it.

Attachment 109750

Attachment 109751

Attachment 109752

I thought that was the end of it and I'd never see it again - whatever it was. But, on Sat eve at 9PM, I'm driving on Bichara Blvd in Spanish Springs and I see it in the road eating some food. These are the only images I could get....they're grainy. Notice a tail that almost touches the ground, back legs like a kangaroo and a long snout. You can't see it but, it's basically hairless. My small dog was in the car and couldn't see it but, she caught a whiff from the AC vents and started to bark. Wild scent.

Has anyone else seen this creature? I did some keyword searching on an image search engine and these critters have been spotted elsewhere in the country. There's some dispute about what they are....small coyote or fox? Obviously with a serious case of mange.

‘Mangy coyote’ spotted in Pa. town turns out to be something else entirely - pennlive.com

Your browser is not supported | nwfdailynews.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/biology/com..._a_bushy_tail/ It looked closest to this but, without the fur.

Oversized rodent?

Worldseries27 09-01-2025 05:26 AM

Definitely a coyote. Do be careful with your pet


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