Charlie Kirk shooter turned in by his family.
 

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Dirtbag.

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It always angers me when the culprit of the crime becomes more famous than his or her victim. Hopefully they can keep the focus on Charlie Kirk rather than the alleged murderer.

I really liked what the Utah Governor said about this tragedy. It showed some wisdom.


I went to BYU Law School for a short time in 1982 on a Merit Scholarship. This cut the tuition to that of a Mormon but I have never been a Mormon. I did like the people in Utah I met quite a bit but the recently covert to Mormonism Puerto Rican dancer roommate would have been a big problem as he saw me as a challenge as someone he could convert.

BYU is in Provo which is not too far from where the Charlie Kirk shooting occurred in Orem.Utah Valley University - Wikipedia

The assassination of Charlie Kirk is no different than the slaying of another partisan political speaker. Martin Luther King Jr. Two brave, passionate people peacefully trying to engage the citizenry to influence politics who were both slain by an assassins bullet in a public place.

Imagine discussion of that being curtailed and censored in 1968, upon which side of history would they have ended, how well would those actions have aged? How about discussions of 9/11?

Imagine public figures and people in authority (teachers, professionals, elected officials) mocking the death and cheering the murder of MLK Jr. Absolutely repulsive and disgusting.

I argue this topic is not about politics, it is about current events. No one is arguing about elections or abortions, Republicans vs Democrats, etc. This is a discussion about a very public assassination of a peaceful citizen expressing their opinions in a public place, a place noted especially for being a bastion of freedom of expression and freedom of thought and for encouraging debate - a college campus.

They are not really comparable. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a leader known throughout the world. A great man.

I never heard of Charlie Kirk before yesterday. I know very little about him. I would need to see some transcripts of his interactions with students to see how much of a dialogue he was creating. Facts matter.


This thread is about the shooting of Charlie Kirk and its aftermath. A current event in the news quite a bit.

Personally I'd rather put the focus on Matthew Silverstone and whoever else was shot at Evergreen High School in Colorado, the same day that Kirk was shot in Utah. And if you sincerely didn't want to draw more attention to Kirk's shooter, you probably might have considered /not/ creating a thread that focuses on it.

Then go ahead and start a thread on the Evergreen HS shooter. This thread addresses Charlie Kirk's assassin being turned in by his family.

It was on the major channels NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN among others. Personally I would love to see more focus on solutions to school shootings. They must be parents ' worst nightmare in 2025.

I would argue these issues largely started when the number of two-parent involved households declined, the removal of moral religious codes from schools became commonplace, and the rapid uncontrolled access to violent video games, movies, and pornography became commonplace.

Solutions to these tragic events start there, in my opinion. Secondary steps include the cessation of "My child is special, unique, and my best friend who can do whatever they want" mindsets (often fed by Montessori type education plans) coupled with the encouragement and fostering of a sense of community and reliance on one-another. Ya know, like scouting programs used to do until those were demonized as well.

What we are experiencing is the snowballed consequences of decades of policies. Policies that removed parents, citizenship, accountability, and religion from education programs and instead injected other, ummm, philosophies of individualism, elitism, nihilism, identity=everything thought, and Marxism.

It does not sound like you heard the Utah Governors speech about this very thing? He did address this.

When I was a kid we played cowboys and indians, and cops and robbers. We did not start shooting people in real life. We did not have any access to guns. These days, guns are easy to get. People leave them in their house and don't lock them up. They leave them in their car.

Kirk is/was controversial. You can make your own judgement on his views.

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Kirk said this :
On gun violence

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.

– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

I will have to try to see all of his speech.

Don't forget the two politicians in Minnesota. No rioting, no burning, no flag at half mast.

I will keep my comments short & to the point: Without naming names.

This all started back in the year " 1996 " Then onto " January 20th 2009 --- January 20th 2016 ", all part of a Master Plan. Without naming a person or persons.

The Plan ? Interrupted from January 20th 2016 to January 19th 2020. Back on Track from January 20th, 2020 until January 19th 2025

January 20th 2025, The plan is to undue " 1996 " thru to " January 19th 2025 ". Not easy as we are finding out.....The " Hard Way ".

Taken into account the interruption from January 20th 2016 - January 19th 2020.

I knew little of him before yesterday, however, from what I have learned, I do not believe he was a patriot deserving of a flag at half staff and the medal of freedom. He was, evidently, a very skilled speaker who appealed to many young people. I do not agree with his beliefs. I don't condone violence, however, I have no sympathy for a man who has no empathy.