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Guest 05-25-2011 07:02 AM

New York, New York
 
Well, well just look what happened in New York yesterday. A preview of 2012 :wave:

Guest 05-25-2011 08:15 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 357150)
Well, well just look what happened in New York yesterday. A preview of 2012 :wave:

YA think?

Guest 05-25-2011 08:22 AM

I'll give em about a half hour before the cry of "voter fraud" goes out.

Guest 05-25-2011 09:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 357173)
I'll give em about a half hour before the cry of "voter fraud" goes out.

Tough issue. Some polls show that even 70% of Tea Party people don't want Medicare changed. It's going to be hard to get people to accept changes in their future retirement health care. The present dialogue isn't changing people's mind, or encouraging them to consider a revamping in the future; that's obvious.

Guest 05-25-2011 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 357190)
Tough issue. Some polls show that even 70% of Tea Party people don't want Medicare changed. It's going to be hard to get people to accept changes in their future retirement health care. The present dialogue isn't changing people's mind, or encouraging them to consider a revamping in the future; that's obvious.

It is a tough issue....I watched first hand as medical care was totally changed by "managed care" AKA big profits for the insurance companies. And now we have millions of people without insurance and many considered
un-insurable.

Not sure what the answer is.....

Guest 05-25-2011 10:10 PM

The silence is deafening.....and telling.

Guest 05-26-2011 12:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 357366)
The silence is deafening.....and telling.

???

Guest 05-26-2011 07:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 357374)
???

:wave:

Guest 05-26-2011 07:23 AM

Missing just a couple facts. There was a third person running who claimed to be in the tea party who in fact wasn't. They actually ran the last three times as a democrat. They ended up splitting the vote... Which of course was the plan. Had the fake tea party candidate not run the democrat would have lost. Interesting that the democrat who did win basically ran an anti-Obama policy campaign. But you all hang on to that tiny little thread like 2010 never happened. Nothing has changed.

Here's to the Queen! Yet another incompetent gaff by the blunderer and cheif.

Guest 05-26-2011 09:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 357406)
Missing just a couple facts. There was a third person running who claimed to be in the tea party who in fact wasn't. They actually ran the last three times as a democrat. They ended up splitting the vote... Which of course was the plan. Had the fake tea party candidate not run the democrat would have lost. Interesting that the democrat who did win basically ran an anti-Obama policy campaign. But you all hang on to that tiny little thread like 2010 never happened. Nothing has changed.

Here's to the Queen! Yet another incompetent gaff by the blunderer and cheif.

So?...The Democrat lost?...Cheated?...Fraud?...Dirty tricks? :doh:

Guest 05-26-2011 10:09 AM

No, just stating the facts.

The Democrats got wiped out six months ago and stated vehemently it was no referendum on Obama. They win this one little race in NY and NOW it’s the big referendum on the Republicans. Boy is that a stretch.

Guest 05-26-2011 10:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 357436)
No, just stating the facts.

The Democrats got wiped out six months ago and stated vehemently it was no referendum on Obama. They win this one little race in NY and NOW it’s the big referendum on the Republicans. Boy is that a stretch.

Stretching is good for the body and soul. :wave:

Guest 05-26-2011 11:50 AM

I find it interesting, but not surprising, that after the shift in the political landscape with the mid-term elections, that those results were downplayed by the liberal media and it's fans as just "local contests with local concerns, not indicative of any groundswell".

Now that one special election has gone to a Democrat in a, for New York anyway, Republican district the liberals are dancing in the street and handing out sweets to the children and calling the future of the Republican Party to be doomed and in danger of extinction.

OK, maybe I'm exaggerating the Democrat's jubilation, but not by much.

Guest 05-26-2011 01:48 PM

All politics are local.

Guest 05-26-2011 05:00 PM

New York New York
 
Itis true that there was a third party (tea Party) candidate and it is true that he captured 9% of the vote. However the fact is that the Republican candidate ignored and hence was too late to combat the MEDISCARE tactics of the Democrats. So as we all know we learn from our mistakes. Republican candidates will have this issue with them through the 2012 elections and they must face it head on. Ryan's budget includes changes for Medicare beginning with 54 year olds. Clearly he has a very workable plan that fits with the commitment to reduce spending and hence our debt without tax increases. Republicans need to work together and have ready a game plan to present ryan's Medicare proposals against those of Obama. What Obama relies on is a 15 independent panel that makes all decisions concerning medicare which trnaslates into unsafe reduction in care the like which is occuring now in RomneyCare. So it is not so much that Democrats won in New York. It is more that the Republicans there dropped the ball

To all the Democrats reading this post please please take a closer look at ObamaCare. Its just not workble and if Obama has his way taxes will be approaching 62% for some (Stephen Moore WSJ 5/26/11. By any stretch of the imagination that is not a receipe for job growth.


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