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Guest 11-19-2011 05:31 AM

Obama is looking better every day
 
What a pool of under qualified REP candidates we have. After each debate it becomes more apparent that the republicans have no chance of getting the WH back. And even more apparent is the fact that REB incumbents are looking bad for reelection to the house and senate. When the party splintered off on the likes of Bachmann and Perry and now Newt, we dug our own grave of failure for 2012. The only hope Republicans have now is to get a spokesman to publicly say "Obama is OK, but ########## can do even better. To continue with the pool of under qualified on the current debate members is to hand the WH to the Democrats without opposition.

After repeated insults I received in this forum for my take on the Candidates, I decided to sit back and take another close look to be sure I was not making bad judgment calls:

WELL: I now even more than before feel that Backmann is missing a few chunks out of her DNA making her a real nut case.

Also, Perry is truly the FREAK BOY I labeled him months ago.

We Conservatives need to admit it when we are wrong and stop being a bull headed bully. That means getting behind Romney or just don't bother with going to the polls at all.

Guest 11-19-2011 05:52 AM

A VOTE FOR ROMNEY IS A VOTE FOR A LIBERAL AND A VOTE TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO:

~is actually a fan of the Department of Education. In the GOP primary race of 2008, Romney remarked that he had come to “see that the Department of Education can actually make a difference.”
Oh, and he is a proponent of “No Child Left Behind,” a law that has served to strengthen the federal government’s grip over state schools.
~endorsed “the Brady Bill”— a federal piece of legislation requiring all would-be purchasers of firearms to wait five days before they can follow through with their purchases. He commented that his decision to do so was “not going to make me the hero of the NRA [National Rifle Association].” But that was fine with Romney, for as he proudly noted, “I don’t line up with the NRA.”
In 2008, on the eve of the declaration of his candidacy for president, Romney acquired a membership with none other than the NRA.
~supported the government’s bailout of the automobile industry. Not only, though, does he call for the federal government to subsidize this industry, he also believes that it ought to continue subsidizing the agricultural industry. Romney wasn’t always this sympathetic to the latter, though. While he was running for the Senate in 1994, he demanded what he referred to as “the virtual elimination” of the Department of Agriculture. However, in 2007, when he was pushed on this point, one of his Iowa spokespersons assured farmers that “Governor Romney believes that investing in agriculture is [the] key to our economy and families.”
~doesn’t just believe in “global warming;” he thinks as well that human beings contribute significantly to it. In and of itself, this belief is neither here nor there, but as we know all too well, believers in “global warming”— especially when they are politicians, like Romney, with dreams of amassing vast quantities of power — invariably jump all too easily from this belief in an impending apocalypse to the conclusion that “we must do something to thwart it.”
And this, of course, means that we need bigger and bigger government.
When he was governor of Massachusetts, Romney authored a 72-point “Climate Protection Plan” and supported the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative — both measures designed to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.
~“Romneycare.” Still, it bears repeating: Romney’s socialized health care scheme for the citizens of Massachusetts was instrumental in the formation of the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act”— i.e. “Obamacare
Furthermore, in the hard cover edition of his book, No Apology: The Case for American Greatness, Romney said that he would like to do for all of America’s citizens vis-à-vis healthcare what he did for the citizens of Massachusetts. Since “Obamacare” became woefully unpopular, the paperback version of his book has been released. Only this version is slightly different from its predecessor inasmuch as it omits this line
~in spite of his assurances that he is opposed to abortion, for most of his political career he has been a proponent of women’s “right to choose.” Mind you, it isn’t just that Romney refused to ally himself with the opponents of abortion; he actively sought to counter their efforts.
In 1994, while he was running for the Senate in Massachusetts, Romney was photographed at a Planned Parenthood fundraiser. That same (election) year, he insisted that “we should sustain and support” Roe v. Wade, as well as “the right of a woman to make that choice” to pursue an abortion or not. Whatever Romney’s or anyone else’s “personal beliefs” regarding the wrongness of abortion, he adamantly rejected the possibility that it would be appropriate to interject them “into a political campaign.”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/opinio...at-mitt-romney

Guest 11-19-2011 06:05 AM

It is either Romney or Obama. Take your pick. Even Romney will have a hard road ahead, but the rest of the REB mob have no chance at all.

Guest 11-19-2011 06:19 AM

Herman Cain will get my vote in the primary. If Romney is the GOP candidate I will be voting for Ron Paul, who will then most certainly will run independently! :ho:

Guest 11-19-2011 06:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 419830)
Herman Cain will get my vote in the primary. If Romney is the GOP candidate I will be voting for Ron Paul, who will then most certainly will run independently! :ho:

I like Ron Paul, but he just cant win. A vote for him is a vote for Obama.

Guest 11-19-2011 07:05 AM

or the candidates need to start making feel good speeches with lots and lots of promises of what will be different if they are elected. But I am afraid that technique is probably worn out by a prior candidate.

The only real comparison to Obama would be to go back to one year prior to the 2008 election and look at Obama then. Where he was in the polls. Where he came from. What he had accomplished and was saying to that point in time.

Then using the same critical magnifying glass currently in hand, compare him to the current round of candidates.

The only thing Obama has going for him is he is an incumbent with a campaign war chest bigger than anybody of the other candidates. He is the only candidate that can have national air time and coverage from the media for free almost anytime he wants. He also has a three year head start campaigning as he has been doing it since elected.

If an unknown, unproven, lack of accomplishment, controversial person like Obama can come up from obscurity and snake charm enough voters to be elected.....what makes some think that couldn't happen again?

He no longer has the unique persona of being the only black to be a candidate. He used up his mojo for being the first one!!.

btk

Guest 11-19-2011 08:45 AM

I'm thinking I'll ignore this thread as it's just a rehash of V II's well known promotion of Romney for unknown reasons other than "he must be the candidate", and his inexplicable hatred for Perry and his distain for all other Republicans.

I disagree with his premise and I'll leave it at that. (Oh, and I think his headline tells you more of his feelings than his post)

Guest 11-19-2011 09:58 AM

no,
 
no, i think V11 is just worried that maybe only romney can win the independents, which i don't think is true....that is what the media would like us to believe...katz, i usually agree with you but if we vote for a third party candidate, we will surely give obama the win! i don't think ron paul will do that as he knows how disruptive it will be...the only thing we can do is work very hard for our candidate of choice so that they win the primary fairly, but we must join together and support whichever person wins the primary, even if it is romney, as another four years of obama is unacceptable. i am leaning to herman cain or newt gingrich and i will not let the left wing media smears influence my decision.

Guest 11-19-2011 10:15 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 419906)
no, i think V11 is just worried that maybe only romney can win the independents, which i don't think is true....that is what the media would like us to believe...katz, i usually agree with you but if we vote for a third party candidate, we will surely give obama the win! i don't think ron paul will do that as he knows how disruptive it will be...the only thing we can do is work very hard for our candidate of choice so that they win the primary fairly, but we must join together and support whichever person wins the primary, even if it is romney, as another four years of obama is unacceptable. i am leaning to herman cain or newt gingrich and i will not let the left wing media smears influence my decision.

Pro-Abortion candidate will NEVER get my vote. You would have better luck convincing me not to vote at all. A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything...I am not that person.

Guest 11-19-2011 10:16 AM

I'm with you 100%, chachacha.

Guest 11-19-2011 10:24 AM

consider this
 
katz, i appreciate your devotion to this cause, but it is one cause among many. i have worked for pro-life years before it became a popular cause...but i ask you to consider your vote as an anti-obama vote, and place it where it has the chance to do most good...every vote will count...we cannot be splintered. we must ALL stand together or fall apart.

Guest 11-19-2011 10:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 419920)
katz, i appreciate your devotion to this cause, but it is one cause among many. i have worked for pro-life years before it became a popular cause...but i ask you to consider your vote as an anti-obama vote, and place it where it has the chance to do most good...every vote will count...we cannot be splintered. we must ALL stand together or fall apart.

Pro-Life is not one cause among many. Please tell me what cause is more important, or even equal to, fighting for the lives of innocent human beings? Food? Shelter? Money? Success? Security?...Abortion is THE root cause of our nation's demise.
Send 90% of your army home til you are down to 3000, then only take those who lap their water like a dog. You will now be down to 300 to fight your fight. OR circle the opposition for seven days just singing songs, until the seventh day. On that day give a mighty shout of VICTORY. OR...well, chachacha, I am sure you can take it from here.

Guest 11-19-2011 10:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 419920)
katz, i appreciate your devotion to this cause, but it is one cause among many. i have worked for pro-life years before it became a popular cause...but i ask you to consider your vote as an anti-obama vote, and place it where it has the chance to do most good...every vote will count...we cannot be splintered. we must ALL stand together or fall apart.

I have to agree. Not casting a ballot against Obama is the same for casting one for him.

Guest 11-19-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 419906)
no, i think V11 is just worried that maybe only romney can win the independents, which i don't think is true....that is what the media would like us to believe...katz, i usually agree with you but if we vote for a third party candidate, we will surely give obama the win! i don't think ron paul will do that as he knows how disruptive it will be...the only thing we can do is work very hard for our candidate of choice so that they win the primary fairly, but we must join together and support whichever person wins the primary, even if it is romney, as another four years of obama is unacceptable. i am leaning to herman cain or newt gingrich and i will not let the left wing media smears influence my decision.

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 419920)
katz, i appreciate your devotion to this cause, but it is one cause among many. i have worked for pro-life years before it became a popular cause...but i ask you to consider your vote as an anti-obama vote, and place it where it has the chance to do most good...every vote will count...we cannot be splintered. we must ALL stand together or fall apart.

I'm sorry Chachacha, but I can't buy into your assessment of V II's motivations in light of his previous lives on this forum, and his beliefs and his professed political affiliation then.

I do agree with you in the supporting of your favorite all the way up to "final elimination round", and then getting behind the candidate left standing in the general election.

If Ron Paul does indeed run as a third party candidate he should be run out of the Republican Party on a rail after being tarred and feathered. This would be a betrayal that could not be forgiven as it would "Ross Perot" the Republican candidate and give us four years of a militant lame-duck Obama. You think the past four years was an abomination? You wouldn't have seen anything yet.

Guest 11-19-2011 11:12 AM

Katz-- If you vote for a third party candidate you are essentially voting for Obama. Obama is pro-choice.


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