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Guest 04-18-2012 01:22 PM

What if we collected taxes from
 
folks like this, before we started with the Buffiet rule ?

"MSNBC’s Al Sharpton is reeling in debt and back taxes.

The liberal provocateur owes nearly $1 million to creditors and the federal government as a result of his failed bid for the 2004 Democratic presidential nomination.

His campaign’s unpaid bills exceed $888,000, according to federal filings.

It is unclear why Sharpton has not paid his creditors. He does not lack for income."


"In August 2011, Sharpton took over the 6 p.m. slot from Keith Olbermann, who earned more than $4 million per year working in the same slot at the network. Sharpton also drew a $240,000 salary from his nonprofit group, National Action Network, in 2011 even as the group racked up nearly $1 million in unpaid federal payroll taxes, interest, and penalties."

I am sure there are both Republicans and Democrats who fit this very bill and wonder why that does not get public....if they dont pay but sound off on television about who should pay......

"Sharpton, who has endorsed President Barack Obama’s calls for taxing the rich, has his own tax issues. He owed the IRS $2.6 million in income taxes in December 2011, as well as almost $900,000 in New York state taxes."

http://freebeacon.com/more-money-more-problems/

Republican or Democrat, these are the kinds of hypocrits we need to call out !

Guest 04-18-2012 01:38 PM

Oh you silly silly boy, Al baby is a Democrat, they don't pay taxes, that is only for us little folks.

Guest 04-18-2012 01:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480847)
folks like this, before we started with the Buffiet rule ?

"MSNBC’s Al Sharpton is reeling in debt and back taxes.

The liberal provocateur owes nearly $1 million to creditors and the federal government as a result of his failed bid for the 2004 Democratic presidential nomination.

His campaign’s unpaid bills exceed $888,000, according to federal filings.

It is unclear why Sharpton has not paid his creditors. He does not lack for income."


"In August 2011, Sharpton took over the 6 p.m. slot from Keith Olbermann, who earned more than $4 million per year working in the same slot at the network. Sharpton also drew a $240,000 salary from his nonprofit group, National Action Network, in 2011 even as the group racked up nearly $1 million in unpaid federal payroll taxes, interest, and penalties."

I am sure there are both Republicans and Democrats who fit this very bill and wonder why that does not get public....if they dont pay but sound off on television about who should pay......

"Sharpton, who has endorsed President Barack Obama’s calls for taxing the rich, has his own tax issues. He owed the IRS $2.6 million in income taxes in December 2011, as well as almost $900,000 in New York state taxes."

More Money, More Problems | Washington Free Beacon

Republican or Democrat, these are the kinds of hypocrits we need to call out !

I don't know anything about Al Sharpton's taxes or income, but as a faithful MSNBC viewer I do know that Keith Olbermann was never on in the 6:00pm hour. Keith was always on at 8:00pm. Sharpton replaced Cenk Uygur, the young Turk, at 6:00pm. And Olbermann was replaced by Ed Schultz at 8:00pm. If freebeacon.com got this all wrong, how much other stuff is correct?

Guest 04-18-2012 02:05 PM

janmcn - given bucco's post and yours...can you come up with any legitimate reason why sharpton is not paying what he owes the irs? i sent my payment off by the deadline! sharpton could at least get on an irs installment plan! :icon_wink:

Guest 04-18-2012 02:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480868)
I don't know anything about Al Sharpton's taxes or income, but as a faithful MSNBC viewer I do know that Keith Olbermann was never on in the 6:00pm hour. Keith was always on at 8:00pm. Sharpton replaced Cenk Uygur, the young Turk, at 6:00pm. And Olbermann was replaced by Ed Schultz at 8:00pm. If freebeacon.com got this all wrong, how much other stuff is correct?

I am shocked to hear that you are a regular watcher of MSNBC...really ???

You missed the point...I mentioned both Republicans and Democrats in my post but of course, as a regular viewer of MSNBC that would not be important.

And this from the NYPOST in December of 2011

"Sharpton drew a $241,732 salary and perks that included first-class or charter air travel, tax filings show. He owes the IRS $2.6 million in income tax, and nearly $900,000 in state tax.

The defunct Rev-Al Communications Inc. owes the state almost $176,000, and Bo-Spanky is $3,500 behind on state-tax liens."


Sharpton’s civil-rights group juggling tax woes - NYPOST.com

Again,the point was to point out the hyprocisy...he is just a shining beacon.

BUT...thanks for pointing out the viewing times on MSNBC

Guest 04-18-2012 02:10 PM

What if we collected taxes from ..................................

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest 04-18-2012 02:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480875)
What if we collected taxes from ..................................

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that the ONLY church we should collect from ?

I ask because you were so specific !!!!!!!

Guest 04-18-2012 02:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480887)
Is that the ONLY church we should collect from ?

I ask because you were so specific !!!!!!!




ALL religious institutions that currently do not pay taxes.

Guest 04-18-2012 02:45 PM

Fig a good honest post and you wreck it by saying Dems do not pay taxes. Your statement is just plain stupid! Please stop it.

Guest 04-18-2012 02:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480875)
What if we collected taxes from ..................................

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Guest (Post 480893)
ALL religious institutions that currently do not pay taxes.

coralway - religious institutions benefit from specific irs exclusion - al sharpton does not! al owes his taxes NOW...religious institutions will only owe them if and when exclusions are legally changed.

Guest 04-18-2012 03:22 PM

Al Sharpton dodging his tax obligation certainly is no surprise. It fits his profile.

But the bigger story is Obama pushing the Buffet Rule. Presidents Taft, Johnson, Nixon and clinton all promised to tax the rich but ended up hitting the middle class. If you recall the Alternative Maximum Tax was suppose to ensure that the rich paid their fair share. The rich loopholed around the provision and a substantial increase of the AMT hit the middle class hard.

Even if Obama's 30% minimum on the rich was effective it wouldn't raise enough tax over a 10 year period to pay this year's obligation.

People need to stop thinking about tax "fairness" and start thinking about effective tax policy. If they did perhaps the Al Sharpton's couldn't as easily
dodge their obligation.

The nation would benefit it Congress lowered corporate and personal income taxes, eliminated capital gains and dividends taxes and eliminate estate taxes. by doing so more of this money would be reinvested into the economy by way of capital spending, research and development consumer spending.

One final thought. I use a gold fish net to catch geckos on my lanai, perhaps we need a large gold fish net to catch the Al Sharpton's have them pay then release them:a040:

Guest 04-18-2012 03:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480870)
janmcn - given bucco's post and yours...can you come up with any legitimate reason why sharpton is not paying what he owes the irs? i sent my payment off by the deadline! sharpton could at least get on an irs installment plan! :icon_wink:

I have no idea what Rev Sharpton's tax status is as I was only pointing out a discrepancy in the MSNBC line-up. Doesn't the IRS have the ability to garnish one's paycheck for unpaid taxes?

Guest 04-18-2012 03:58 PM

the Catholic church
 
just some statistics which show how the catholic church saves the fed govt millions....it educates in the US alone, 2.6 million students every day, at a cost to parents and parishes of ten billion dollars a year...if these students went to public schools, it would cost the taxpayers 18 billion a year! in secondary education the church supports 230 colleges and universities, with 700,000 students of all religions going on to top careers which benefit our society. in health care, the non-profit catholic hospitals in this country (637 of them) provide the health care for one in five american patients every day... these statistics come from a new book, Rediscover Catholicism, which seeks to remind battered catholics of the wonderful things our church does for not only the united states but on a global scale for many millions of people.... so don't begrudge a tax exemption to an institution which provides much more and more efficiently than a government bureaucracy can!

Guest 04-18-2012 05:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480929)
I have no idea what Rev Sharpton's tax status is as I was only pointing out a discrepancy in the MSNBC line-up. Doesn't the IRS have the ability to garnish one's paycheck for unpaid taxes?

the irs sure didn't hesitate to garnish some of the employees where i used to work! but those emps didn't have any impact on the budgets and staffing of that agency! ya know what i'm sayin!

even though charile rangel was found guilty by a house ethics committee panel for concealing assets and violating the tax code, i don't recall anything happening to him beyond his paying a fine re the misuse of a rent-stabilized apt in nyc.

Guest 04-18-2012 08:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 480931)
just some statistics which show how the catholic church saves the fed govt millions....it educates in the US alone, 2.6 million students every day, at a cost to parents and parishes of ten billion dollars a year...if these students went to public schools, it would cost the taxpayers 18 billion a year! in secondary education the church supports 230 colleges and universities, with 700,000 students of all religions going on to top careers which benefit our society. in health care, the non-profit catholic hospitals in this country (637 of them) provide the health care for one in five american patients every day... these statistics come from a new book, Rediscover Catholicism, which seeks to remind battered catholics of the wonderful things our church does for not only the united states but on a global scale for many millions of people.... so don't begrudge a tax exemption to an institution which provides much more and more efficiently than a government bureaucracy can!




Let me put this is politely as I can, ok?

HOGWASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Battered catholics? Are you referring to the ruined lives of all the young men the church as abused, physically and otherwise?

EVERY religious institution should be forced to pay real estate taxes. St. Patricks alone would bring in billions in revenue. That would alleviate the tax burden on a lot of others who have to pay higher taxes because the church pays nothing.


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