Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, Non Villages Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/)
-   -   Zimmerman case probable cause affidavit. (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/zimmerman-case-probable-cause-affidavit-52043/)

Taltarzac725 04-21-2012 07:33 AM

Zimmerman case probable cause affidavit.
 
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/intera...-affidavit.pdf

This is a probable cause affidavit which does not give all the facts in the case. It is dated April 11, 2012.

billethkid 04-21-2012 12:00 PM

and will be the prime contributor to Zimmerman perhaps not even going to trial.

Lottsa emotion....very little else...thank GOD does not work in MOST court cases.

He will wind up being aquitted or not tried. Then watch the sparks fly....eh?

btk

Taltarzac725 04-21-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 482198)
and will be the prime contributor to Zimmerman perhaps not even going to trial.

Lottsa emotion....very little else...thank GOD does not work in MOST court cases.

He will wind up being aquitted or not tried. Then watch the sparks fly....eh?

btk

Not sure why you assert this. Facts have not fully come out as yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

manaboutown 04-21-2012 01:19 PM

The affidavit appears to be quite vacuous, full of interpretative allegations and conclusions rather than actual facts.

Taltarzac725 04-21-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 482231)
The affidavit appears to be quite vacuous, full of interpretative allegations and conclusions rather than actual facts.

How so?

http://hosted.ap.org/specials/intera...-affidavit.pdf

You do not know what the investigators knew and when they knew it.

The wikipedia article has a lot of footnotes to material that would have been available to the investigators up through April 11, 2012. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

manaboutown 04-21-2012 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 482021)
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/intera...-affidavit.pdf

This is a probable cause affidavit which does not give all the facts in the case. It is dated April 11, 2012.

In the Public Response section of the Wikipedia article, last line, a footnote 182 lists many legal experts seeing the affidavit as deficient.

billethkid 04-21-2012 09:11 PM

Thanx to the other contributors answering the question raised to my assertion.

btk

Taltarzac725 04-22-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 482331)
In the Public Response section of the Wikipedia article, last line, a footnote 182 lists many legal experts seeing the affidavit as deficient.

It is footnote 180. Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is weak but Dershowitz, for instance, says that many of the probable cause affidavits are weak. Probably because the prosecution does not want to give away its case at this point. A point Redwitch made some ways back in another thread.

The journalist who assembled the legal expert opinions on the Zimmerman probable cause affidavit does look very interesting-- http://www.theagitator.com/

The link to the various legal experts take on the Zimmerman affidavit-- http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/1...ent-reactions/

Figmo Bohica 04-22-2012 01:50 PM

Case might be really weak, with the 150K bond. Murder 2, and such a low bond, most murder 1 and 2 case are not released from jail and if bail is granted it is usually a substandial amount with lots of zeros attached. Need more information before making any intelligent guess as what will happen in court.

Taltarzac725 04-22-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 482804)
Case might be really weak, with the 150K bond. Murder 2, and such a low bond, most murder 1 and 2 case are not released from jail and if bail is granted it is usually a substandial amount with lots of zeros attached. Need more information before making any intelligent guess as what will happen in court.

Good post. We will have to wait and see what happens next month with the judge.

The defense may have some surprises as with the Casey Anthony case. They do not really have to go into their case all that much at this stage except for trying to put the defendant in the best possible light.

Figmo Bohica 04-22-2012 03:53 PM

You have that right. It will be interesting to say the least. With all the major media showing the picture of Martin as a 12 year old and Zimmerman as a prisoner in orange jump suit, to many people jumped to conclusions that might not be correct. We will just have to wait and see what is brought out in court. No matter what happens two families are hurting, one lost a son, and one is going thru a life changing event. Not going to end good for either.

rp001 04-25-2012 11:46 AM

exactly
 
We, as a civilized people should find it reprehensible that this even occurred in a "modern" society..No good will come of this and the divide among factions just grows..We should have been over this long ago, and in some cases are still fighting the wars of the 50's...

rubicon 04-25-2012 02:29 PM

Al Sharpton crowd did a good job in making this a racial case and not what it really was an overzealous under educated guy playing cop. With the racial overtones comes a conviction because he has already been tried and sentenced by most of the nations media pundits. If this is incorrect and he is not convicted get ready for the many eruptions.

paulandjean 04-25-2012 04:11 PM

Do not think Al Sharpton made this a racial case,rather george Zimmerman. He is the one talking with the police,profiling,following and giving info to the police because Trayvon is walking home from the store.He had every right to walk thru that complex.He did not commit any crimes.

janmcn 04-25-2012 04:38 PM

ABC News is reporting that there is a hearing Friday morning and Zimmerman will attend. They didn't say what the hearing pertains to.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:52 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.