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Guest 05-23-2012 10:27 PM

41% of Americans Pro-Choice........50% Pro-Life
 
Gallup released a poll today showing Pro-Choice (Pro-Abortion) advocacy is down to a record low 41% of Americans

Meanwhile, 50% of Americans refer to themselves as Pro-Life!!

The decline in Pro-Abortions is seen across all 3 political groups.

I knew in my heart that this had to be the case. Life over Death; it's elementary.

"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%

Guest 05-24-2012 03:10 AM

I knew in my heart that this had to be the case. Life over Death; it's elementary.

If we all thought that simply, life would be simple as well, but since so many of us can think in a more complex way life is sometimes complicated. Like Hitler believed in one race, very simple. Like all dictators ITS MY WAY OR DIE, very simple.

Thank God and the majority democratic vote for Roe Vs Wade.

Guest 05-24-2012 06:22 AM

It's telling that, later on in the article, 52% still say abortion should be legal under certain terms.

It's like I've said for a long time. Nobody *likes* abortion - but sometimes there are reasons for it.

Guest 05-24-2012 06:28 AM

Yes, and I pray for the women that live under the constant fear that their rights will be taken away from them.

Guest 05-24-2012 07:58 AM

That's an interesting poll result. Would like to see exactly what kind of questions were asked though as well as from whom.

Guest 05-24-2012 07:58 AM

Yes life is complicated but that is what makes life worth living. The problem with the abortion issue is that the opposite extremes seem to get all of the attention.

Perhaps there are bona-fides for performing an abortion but then doesn't that contemplate the matter of discussion, pyhiscal exams, alternate strategies to make a final determination. Isn't this what many people/states are recommending ? Taking it further doesn't such a horrible experience lend itself to thinking about prevention? Isn't this what intelligent thinking people do? Isn't madness sometimes defined as doing the same thing and expecting a different result? Isn't it madness then to suggest that woman have the right to an absolute right to an abortion time and time again?

I opine you decide.

Guest 05-24-2012 08:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 496570)
Yes life is complicated but that is what makes life worth living. The problem with the abortion issue is that the opposite extremes seem to get all of the attention.

Perhaps there are bona-fides for performing an abortion but then doesn't that contemplate the matter of discussion, pyhiscal exams, alternate strategies to make a final determination. Isn't this what many people/states are recommending ? Taking it further doesn't such a horrible experience lend itself to thinking about prevention? Isn't this what intelligent thinking people do? Isn't madness sometimes defined as doing the same thing and expecting a different result? Isn't it madness then to suggest that woman have the right to an absolute right to an abortion time and time again?

I opine you decide.

The Florida bill on abortion now under consideration by the FL Senate after passage by the FL House looks like it has a number of holes with respect to the actual extent of scientific knowledge. It is based more on current politics fueled by religious ideas than by common sense or scientific facts. Florida House Passes Abortion Bill Requiring Doctors To Describe Fetal Pain To Pregnant Women

"...there is also research to suggest that despite the presence of such a physical structure within the fetus, it still lacks the capacity to recognize pain. In a 2005 review of the evidence, the American Medical Association concluded that: pain is an emotional and psychological response that requires conscious recognition of a stimulus. Consequently, the capacity for conscious perception of pain can only arise after the thalamocortical pathways begin to function, which may occur in the third trimester around 29-30 weeks gestational age." This is from the Huffingtonpost.com article linked above.

Guest 05-24-2012 08:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 496483)
Gallup released a poll today showing Pro-Choice (Pro-Abortion) advocacy is down to a record low 41% of Americans

Meanwhile, 50% of Americans refer to themselves as Pro-Life!!

The decline in Pro-Abortions is seen across all 3 political groups.

I knew in my heart that this had to be the case. Life over Death; it's elementary.

"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%

It would be good if RichieLion, my good drinking buddy at the waterhole, would do resarch before posting tripe.http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...are-hypocrites

Guest 05-24-2012 08:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 496577)
It would be good if RichieLion, my good drinking buddy at the waterhole, would do resarch before posting tripe.Daily Kos: Gallup poll on abortion shows 'pro-lifers' are hypocrites

Roe v. Wade had various cut off periods when abortions should not be performed. It would think that if you asked how many people support the decision Roe v. Wade and explained what the court case ruled that the numbers supporting abortions under certain cirucumstances would be higher. Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guest 05-24-2012 10:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 496577)
It would be good if RichieLion, my good drinking buddy at the waterhole, would do resarch before posting tripe.Daily Kos: Gallup poll on abortion shows 'pro-lifers' are hypocrites

Gallup is tripe. Good one Buggy...............funny as ever.

Guest 05-24-2012 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 496506)
I knew in my heart that this had to be the case. Life over Death; it's elementary.

If we all thought that simply, life would be simple as well, but since so many of us can think in a more complex way life is sometimes complicated. Like Hitler believed in one race, very simple. Like all dictators ITS MY WAY OR DIE, very simple.

Thank God and the majority democratic vote for Roe Vs Wade.

That was a decision by a court and not by the majority of Americans.

Big difference.

The only ones dying in your brave world are the babies.

Guest 05-24-2012 10:17 AM

when all gets said and done most in the polls including many here on this forum have and are entitled to their opinions on a matter that can ONLY be assessed by those personally involved especially the pregnant one.

Every one else is no more than emotional opinion and arm waving.

And there definitely is no room for expertise or influence of any kind from ANY politician as their only concern on the issue is swayed based on votes available.

btk

Guest 05-24-2012 11:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 496527)
It's telling that, later on in the article, 52% still say abortion should be legal under certain terms.

It's like I've said for a long time. Nobody *likes* abortion - but sometimes there are reasons for it.

Of course. When the tiny percentage of abortions that are performed because of rape, incest or gross extreme fetal deformity are addressed, people by and large will admit they cannot fault the mother's desire to end that pregnancy.

The thing is that the vast majority of abortions are done for convenience.

That's the appalling statistic in this discussion that the pro-abortionist don't like to discuss.

Guest 05-24-2012 11:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 496663)
Of course. When the tiny percentage of abortions that are performed because of rape, incest or gross extreme fetal deformity are addressed, people by and large will admit they cannot fault the mother's desire to end that pregnancy.

The thing is that the vast majority of abortions are done for convenience.

That's the appalling statistic in this discussion that the pro-abortionist don't like to discuss.

That seems incredibly insenstive Richie. Doubt if many women take the idea of getting an abortion as a matter of convenience.
Va. delegate regrets abortion 'convenience' remark | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Guest 05-24-2012 11:22 AM

The thing is that the vast majority of abortions are done for convenience. Know one in their right mind could swallow this ridiculous statement.

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