Lance Armstrong. Doper or not?
 

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I kind of find it hard to see that his various accusers are just doing this for spite. What's the real motive behind his many detractors though if Lance Armstrong is innocent?

Lance
 

The last year that Lance participated in the Tour de France, the French authorities raided his room and found 3 banned substances, soap, shampoo and deodorant!!

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Odeur du jour
 

Suppose blood, sweat and tears is the odeur du jour for many athletes in France.

I don't know if he did or not,but he was beating admitted dopers.If he wasn't doping he must be superman. 14th

Sorry to say...
 

...I no longer believe Lance. Used to be a big fan and watched all his races. But I believed the protestations of innocence by other top cyclers who seemed trustworthy, and they now admit guilt. I throw in the towel. No more Tour de France for me. I want to watch true athletes, not chemical strength.

Having said that, why are we so eager to destroy the reputations of our heroes? If they test them ad nauseam with repeated negative results, then leave it alone and let us all appreciate and enjoy their success. Our kids need real heroes to look up to.

I read today that he's being investigated by the American authority. Can't imagine what their motivation would be. Lance tends to be a jerk, but that's no reason to go after him now, is it? I do recall reading that he had passed over 500 blood tests in his racing career. And a federal doping investigation resulted in no charges against him a few years ago. Vendetta?

Three Tour de Funny-bones! That was funny!

As for the question of his doping or not, I can't imagine how he was consistently and throughly tested, as reported on the news, and be found drug free. Also, why has nothing suspected been substantiated after all this time. Personally I feel that there is more to this than actual illegal substance abuse than someone or some people want us to find out about!

I hope the investigation that's going to take place also includes an investigation of the sources of the information that prompted this action. I also hope that if there are some nefarious activities afoot, that it's uncovered and those people and/or organizations responsible pay a very heavy price for their part in it!

It sounded like the previous investigation was about how he could be found by many to be clean of drugs. They were looking for a conspiracy of some kind and could not find the evidence.

I would think that it would have to be one heck of an improbable conspiracy to cover it up with so much testing behind it. I think it's much more likely that there would be a conspiracy to destroy Lance out of whatever jealously or motivation possible conspirators out there would have if that were to be the case!

Got to be honest 7 years later is too late. just my thoughts

Random thoughts:

1. It would be nice to think he is clean as role models are needed.
2. Petty jealousy by other people as Lance has stopped racing many years ago. What's to gain except to strip him of his titles and grant them to other jealous riders.
3. Being somewhat skeptical, I say he is not clean but am doubtful it will be proved conclusively.

It would be a record for me if I ate seven "funny bones" in a row. :jester:

Sometimes there are just incredible athletes and they do incredible things. Bob Beamon, Mark Spitz, Roger Bannister, etc,etc. If you take someone extremely gifted and they are motivated as well to be the best, then you get amazing records. Look at what Michael Jordan did. A number of players were as physically talented, but no one had his drive and work ethic. Same with Lance. I think he was clean. Please let it be so.

A cheater is a cheater
 

Never forget this is the same guy who was sleeping with Sheryl crow while his wife cared for there children and was responsible for nursing him back to health with cancer,,,, no mr Armstrong I believe u just as much I believe tiger woods,,, Cindy Anthony and Jerry Sandusky ......

I think all sports should be like weight lifting. You have an OPEN division and a controlled division. Anything goes in the OPEN class.

If we did this do you know what would happen? Everyone would watch only the open division of each sport. Why? Because of the performance. All that happens now is the 'clean' athletes are at a disadvantage because a large number of performers will be trying the next best way to beat the system. Can't blame them. It's all about the money. Not saying it's right but it is what it is.