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KeepingItReal 07-24-2012 07:31 PM

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Pturner 07-24-2012 07:36 PM

Hi KeepingIt,

Yes, them's the rules. There's only one time a year that you can pay the bond in full without penalty and that is in July. They send you a notice. Did you use a TV agent? If so, I'm very surprised you were not told.

BTW, welcome to TOTV.

KeepingItReal 07-24-2012 08:17 PM

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Ragman 07-24-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 527758)
Thanks much but our house was not even built until the end of August, we came down the end of October and closed November 11 and paid the bond in full at our closing PLUS another year's interest on money we don't owe.

I had almost the same time line as you.

Check your settlement statement and you'll see the bond payment as well as the assessments were prorated to your closing date (just like property taxes).

The cut-off for all bond payments is July. You could have waited until July to pay the bond at the same amount.

The VCDD staff was very helpful to me explaining the process. You might want to talk to them with an open mind before involving the government and lawyers in what is almost assuredly a losing proposition.

:wave:

Villager Dude 07-24-2012 08:50 PM

Is any part of the bond payment tax deductable ?

Thanks

elevatorman 07-24-2012 08:55 PM

The bond was most likely issued in 2009 or 2010. Go here and you can find your bond amortized by district & section (sec # is on your green ID card) Village Community Development Districts The bond can only be paid once a year. If you had waited until July you would have paid the same amount.

KeepingItReal 07-24-2012 08:56 PM

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Ragman 07-24-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Dude (Post 527788)
Is any part of the bond payment tax deductable ?

Thanks

Sorry,no :yuck:

The Shadow 07-24-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 527798)
Problem is not a thing about the additional pro-rated year was disclosed to us by our agent even though we ask repeatedly. We were not privy to the closing numbers until after the deposit was made and then it was too late. If this information had been given to us then it would have been a decision for us to pay it or not. This may be VCCD policy but I want to know if it is in compliance with the state regulations for CDDs.

Did your agent disclose to you the on going IRS tax free bond issue and its potential negative effects on your investment? Did your agent tell you that you were not paying off the tax free bond? (That’s tax free to the bond holder.) Did your agent tell you part of your amenity fees are used to pay legal fees to deal with the IRS?

KeepingItReal 07-24-2012 09:27 PM

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graciegirl 07-24-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 527816)
Did your agent disclose to you the on going IRS tax free bond issue and its potential negative effects on your investment? Did your agent tell you that you were not paying off the tax free bond? (That’s tax free to the bond holder.) Did your agent tell you part of your amenity fees are used to pay legal fees to deal with the IRS?

Ongoing is right. Heading into the fifth year now and still no terrible bad thing .

And the amenity fees paying legal fees....where in the world did that come from?

Sometimes I wonder just what is the motivating force for this kind of negativity and scare tactics?

graciegirl 07-24-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 527758)
Thanks much but our house was not even built until the end of August, we came down the end of October and closed November 11 and paid the bond in full at our closing PLUS another year's interest on money we don't owe.

So your new home was a spec built home? Since you closed on it well after it was built? Or perhaps your home was started in August and you closed in November.
PTurner is right.
Everyone has the same rules about payment of the bond.

ilovetv 07-24-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527834)
Ongoing is right. Heading into the fifth year now and still no terrible bad thing .

And the amenity feels paying legal fees....where in the world did that come from?

Sometimes I wonder just what is the motivating force for this kind of negativity and scare tactics?

It takes a really small person to want a new TV resident--and owner of what could well be one's lifetime dream home--to feel like they've "been had"...

....when for most people here, buying a home here has been one of the best decisions we've ever made.

The Shadow 07-24-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527834)
Ongoing is right. Heading into the fifth year now and still no terrible bad thing .

And the amenity fees paying legal fees....where in the world did that come from?

Sometimes I wonder just what is the motivating force for this kind of negativity and scare tactics?

I am sorry the lawyers fighting the IRS get their money from where?

bimmertl 07-25-2012 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527834)
Ongoing is right. Heading into the fifth year now and still no terrible bad thing .

And the amenity fees paying legal fees....where in the world did that come from?

Sometimes I wonder just what is the motivating force for this kind of negativity and scare tactics?

Here's a link to the June POA newsletter. Page 4 makes it clear the legal fees in the ongoing IRS battle, which by now exceed $500,000, are being paid for by amenity fees.

http://www.poa4us.org/bulletins_file...etin201206.pdf


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